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Old 03-01-2011, 12:33 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by Snowden View Post
First of all, your analogy is completely bogus. Secondly, how does my "logic" dictate that I don't think we should bother having titles? My point was that they've organically built up Del Rio as above that division without the title. Likewise, they've done it while allowing other guys to hold gold, and therefore get a rub from it. If their plans were to build Del Rio as a main event talent from the start, you don't have to throw a title around his waist to do so.

Instead, they gave Daniel Bryan/Dolph Ziggler reigns with the strap that did something for their credibility. There guys weren't built from the start as top caliber competitors, so their "ability to hold a title" means a damn. The same thing goes ESPECIALLY for Miz. The guy was booked at the bottom of the barrel when he got to the 'E, so showing a slow progression upwards made complete and total sense in establishing his credibility. Del Rio's character, however, was built as a man who talked main event shit, and backed it up in spades. From day 1, he called out, and beat, a former world champion. He's been booked as much better than the usual rookie, and thus, didn't take the same steps.

Second tier titles can do the job, I agree. But they aren't a necessary prerequisite for a world title run. And to be frank, pushing a future star trumps temporarily building up the Intercontinental title...especially because second tier title prestige is so transient. Do the unified tag titles mean more NOW because Jericho and Big Show held it a year ago? Do the Corre look better because of it? No, not really. But building Del Rio as a main event star, that CAN stick. Plus, if they wanted to give him an IC title run and push him the same way, he'd most likely have to drop the strap beforehand. Yeah, they can get creative where he wouldn't eat the pin, but still, why have him lose at all?

And you're completely entitled to your opinion...and where he falls at the top of the card is relatively inconsequential, he's still got a world title match at Mania.

And I knew what you meant, so how bout you "think before you complain."
Yeah, and my point was that it does nothing for me. I don't see him as a world champion. I couldn't care less if they put the belt on him or not, I still won't see him as a world champion. Too much, too soon with nothing really leading up to it. You have to crawl before you can walk. And if Del Rio wins the belt it will feel more like they gave it to him rather than him earning the right to wear it. You can complain about it all you want, but a Del Rio World Title run still doesn't appeal to me at this time, but had he had a secondary title run, it would have.

Talking about how Bryan, Ziggler, and Miz weren't built as top guys, and therefore benefited from secondary title runs proves my point PERFECTLY. Thank you for that. And as I mentioned earlier on, I feel Del Rio would have benefited too, had they gone a similar route with him instead of just bringing him in, shooting him to the moon, and saying "yes, he's awesome. believe it." Sorry, but no. I don't believe it. Not yet. As you mentioned, a title run helped the other guys, so it would obviously had helped Del Rio.

So in your world, we can either build Del Rio OR build the IC title? That's what your argument says. I'm guessing the idea of multitasking would be lost on you.

And your right, building Del Rio as a star quickly CAN stick. Of course it can. Let's ask Jack Swagger how well it worked for him. He's going to WrestleMania. Granted, it's in Michael Cole's corner, but hey, he's still going without having to buy a ticket. Maybe next year Del Rio can be in the corner of one of the Divas? Because, you know, these main event pushes have proven themselves to always pan out so well in the long run.

And why would he have had to drop the IC title before WrestleMania? That would be pointless and completely unnecessary. Come on, dude. Seriously. Think. Warrior didn't drop it when he took on Hogan. Champion vs. Champion matches are interesting, and lets face it, it's not like the WWE has big plans for the IC title or the US title at WrestleMania anyway. It's not complicated. Del Rio wins the IC belt before the Rumble, brags about how after the Rumble he'll add another title to his collection, and he takes the IC belt to WrestleMania. If he loses at Mania, he still has a title to defend and build himself back up. If he wins the World Title at Mania then he can either be a double champion for awhile (again, the WWE doesn't seem to have big plans for the IC title these days anyway), or he can just say out with the old and in with the new and dump the IC title, leading up to an IC title tournament which could, again, get some interest in the IC title by making it look like something worth chasing. OH SNAP! Did you see what I just did? I found a way to give a rub to BOTH Del Rio AND the IC Title in one storyline. Something that, based on your last post, you didn't seem to think could happen. It's called killing two birds with one stone. It's also called......"THINKING." Learn it, live it, love it.

Despite the fact you typed a lot in your response, you still didn't manage to really say anything. You just got your little feelings hurt so you had to come out here and save face by running your mouth. And you proved....what exactly? That they should have done what they did and not bothered giving Del Rio a secondary title, why? I JUST proved they could have done it better by giving him the IC title. Unfortunately, you failed to listen to my advice of thinking before you speak. Don't feel bad though, it takes practice. You'll get it. Eventually.
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