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Old 03-13-2011, 08:15 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Xero View Post
First off, I was talking about Hogans later WWE run in terms of Vince. Didn't mean his original run. Meant to clarify that.

And I'm not saying that Hogan had nothing to do with WrestleMania, but in terms of level of importance, he's not number one or number two. Anyone (with a shit load of charisma) who was in Hogan's position (superman push), going after Piper and siding with Mr. T would have drawn similarly.

I'm not saying there WAS someone who could have taken Hogan's spot back then. There may have been and there may not have been (it was going to happen with someone, no doubt) but without the uber heel in Piper I doubt Hogan could have drawn nearly as well with someone else. And without Lauper and Mr. T, WrestleMania doesn't happen. It's that simple.

I'm going a little off topic here, but that's the difference between someone like Piper and Hogan. Hogan was a cookie cutter good guy with a rocket strapped to his ass. Piper was out of the ordinary. He carried himself differently and was on a completely different level than A LOT of people. Hogan was replaceable with the right person. Piper was not.
Of course Piper was replaceable. Whoever replaced him may not have been as good but it wouldn't have mattered because he'd have been against Hogan and that's what mattered, that's what people paid to see. He was the guy in the A-Team, in films, on chat shows, the guy with the exposure standing alongside Mr. T, as well as getting it done on the road. The most important thing to being a success in wrestling is getting over. It's the key to everything. If you aren't over, you don't make money for you or your company. And Hogan did that better than anybody in the history of the business. That's what made him irreplaceable, the connection with the people. If Piper had been 'the guy', 'the real star', I doubt Vince would have hesitated to turn him blue-eye and have him as his flagship guy. You seem to be going by the Noid Fantasy Booking Rule that is you can get anybody over if you just simply give them a push. You're looking at this completely from a smart mark 'workrate' and 'edgy gimmicks' point of view when the object of the business is to make money. Which Hogan did better than anybody.

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Originally Posted by Seth82 View Post
Yeah CSL...

Alot of NWA World Champions worked helluva lot harder then the Hulkster

and there's no maybe about it

They traveled all over the world defending the belt and that's something Hulk never did

Lou Thesz was 10 times better as a worker then Hogan ever was
I knew somebody like you would pop up. A plane ride overseas isn't much different to a plane ride from LA to NYC. Only the NWA champion didn't have a million press appearances to make in between. So please feel free to step down from this 'NWA champions were better because Flair talked about working 365 days a year' gimmick that so many are fond of. And I said 'maybe'. I don't know for a fact and neither do you. End of.
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