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alright...before mtv's little thing w/ the all things rock countdown and lifestyles...they were nothing and no one knew about them...the first cd (self tilted) was quite good i belive...i really don't like them but i do own both cds and the first one when i bought it i liked once mtv came into play and the "mainstream pop" go into them thats when i belive they turned. anyways if they would complain about being rich and all famous then they would be hipocritical..but since i haven't heard about them getting away with stuff i would say that they are just a band that made a cd and it got big bc of all the hot topic goths that roam the earth..
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