TPWW Forums - View Single Post - DISCUSSION - Some Thoughts on HHH, Y2J, Cena, Guerrero, Taker, Maven, Lesnar, etc.

**The CyNick** · 05-29-2004, 05:34 PM

The Jericho thing has been well documented here. Jericho will NEVER get a main event push as the top babyafce, Hunter just wont allow it. It sucks because Jericho is more talented than HHH, but thats just the way it is. I can Jericho getting a title shot when HHH wins the title, but he wont be a top guy. And the thought of him heaqdlining Mania again, is so funny it hurts. Only way I see him getting to the top is if they move him over to Smackdown.

John Cena is in a togh spot. He's possibly the most over face in the company (maybe 2nd to Eddie), but his gimmick has been hurt by the fact that the US TV industry is really messed up right now. Everyone is worried about being hit with fines from the FCC, so as a result Cena's promos have suffered. At the same time, he's still over, so the thinking is probably if it aint broke dont fix it.

I'm going to assume you haven't watched very much of Smackdown over the past few months, but if you had you'd know that Eddie is still the same old Eddie. However he cant be all about comedy, because as Ive tried to tell you kids a thousand time sCOMEDY DOESNT DRAW. If Eddie is going to be WWE Champion, he has to be involved in serious angles (like the one with Bradshaw). But rest assurd he still does lie cheat and steal.

As far as the Gurrero faction idea goes, I like it, but not right now. I think the people love to hate Chavo, and it would be hard for them to turn him face. Plus with Chavo Classic as a regular worker, well I dont think thats a good idea. Its okay for now, and maybe a match between the Chavos, but I dont think Chavo is good enough to wrestle on a regular basis.

Its obvious Taker-Mordecai will happen at some point (likely Summerslam), but I woudln't go so far as to say it will be the top drawing program for SD. It remains unclear how the fans will accept Mordecai as a top guy. I guess we'll see. As far as a "new" Undertaker, that is the worst idea Ive ever heard. I know you remember Fake Diesel, so why would Fake Undertaker work any better? Kane, for example was booked to be the "new" Undertaker, but they didn't do soemthing stupid like call him Undertaker JR, they gave him a different gimmick with similar traits to Taker.

I think there is a possibility that Scott Steiner could come in to Smackdown, lay acouple of beatings and then work a program with Eddie or Cena for one of their titles. The problem is that Steiner really really...really sucks at this point. So it would have to be a quick feud, bring him in, ahve him kill a few jobbers, and then put over Cena, Eddie or whoever. As a long term character he wont work, as we've seen on RAW.

I think the WWE likes Maven, but I dont think the fans care too much about him either way. Its possible fans will take to him as a mid level heel or face. But I dont think SD needs more guys that the fans dont care about. In other words I'd rather see Jericho or HBK come over to SD, and then give Maven a bigger push on RAW to see what happens.

Obviously if the WWE could get Lesnar back, that would be great, but I cant see it happening for at least another year. He's not going to come back while football is going on, in case he gets a job there. And who knows how serious he is about makiing it. I mean maybe he fails in some try outs, but then decides to come back the next year after a year worth of practise. I think there is an outside chance he'll be back for Mania in LA, but i think the safer bet would be that he'll be back in the Fall of 05. The more time he's gone, the bigger face pop he'll when he gets back.

05-29-2004, 05:34 PM	#3
The CyNick Make the IWC Great Again Posts: 8,922	The Jericho thing has been well documented here. Jericho will NEVER get a main event push as the top babyafce, Hunter just wont allow it. It sucks because Jericho is more talented than HHH, but thats just the way it is. I can Jericho getting a title shot when HHH wins the title, but he wont be a top guy. And the thought of him heaqdlining Mania again, is so funny it hurts. Only way I see him getting to the top is if they move him over to Smackdown. John Cena is in a togh spot. He's possibly the most over face in the company (maybe 2nd to Eddie), but his gimmick has been hurt by the fact that the US TV industry is really messed up right now. Everyone is worried about being hit with fines from the FCC, so as a result Cena's promos have suffered. At the same time, he's still over, so the thinking is probably if it aint broke dont fix it. I'm going to assume you haven't watched very much of Smackdown over the past few months, but if you had you'd know that Eddie is still the same old Eddie. However he cant be all about comedy, because as Ive tried to tell you kids a thousand time sCOMEDY DOESNT DRAW. If Eddie is going to be WWE Champion, he has to be involved in serious angles (like the one with Bradshaw). But rest assurd he still does lie cheat and steal. As far as the Gurrero faction idea goes, I like it, but not right now. I think the people love to hate Chavo, and it would be hard for them to turn him face. Plus with Chavo Classic as a regular worker, well I dont think thats a good idea. Its okay for now, and maybe a match between the Chavos, but I dont think Chavo is good enough to wrestle on a regular basis. Its obvious Taker-Mordecai will happen at some point (likely Summerslam), but I woudln't go so far as to say it will be the top drawing program for SD. It remains unclear how the fans will accept Mordecai as a top guy. I guess we'll see. As far as a "new" Undertaker, that is the worst idea Ive ever heard. I know you remember Fake Diesel, so why would Fake Undertaker work any better? Kane, for example was booked to be the "new" Undertaker, but they didn't do soemthing stupid like call him Undertaker JR, they gave him a different gimmick with similar traits to Taker. I think there is a possibility that Scott Steiner could come in to Smackdown, lay acouple of beatings and then work a program with Eddie or Cena for one of their titles. The problem is that Steiner really really...really sucks at this point. So it would have to be a quick feud, bring him in, ahve him kill a few jobbers, and then put over Cena, Eddie or whoever. As a long term character he wont work, as we've seen on RAW. I think the WWE likes Maven, but I dont think the fans care too much about him either way. Its possible fans will take to him as a mid level heel or face. But I dont think SD needs more guys that the fans dont care about. In other words I'd rather see Jericho or HBK come over to SD, and then give Maven a bigger push on RAW to see what happens. Obviously if the WWE could get Lesnar back, that would be great, but I cant see it happening for at least another year. He's not going to come back while football is going on, in case he gets a job there. And who knows how serious he is about makiing it. I mean maybe he fails in some try outs, but then decides to come back the next year after a year worth of practise. I think there is an outside chance he'll be back for Mania in LA, but i think the safer bet would be that he'll be back in the Fall of 05. The more time he's gone, the bigger face pop he'll when he gets back.