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**Pintint** · 10-22-2011, 04:40 PM

I dont get where you insist that I am "harping" on Valve. I dont care about Valve. Their games haven't entertained me since Half Life 1, I dont like Steam, so I have no problem not buying something I dont like. Trying to sit here and prove to me that Half Life 2 and Valve are the greatest things of all time is futile.

Nor am I going to suddenly going to start supporting "all digital" downloads, even if the future is heading there. I am going to keep buying retail as long as it is available at retail. If I can get more for my money (which I DO) by buying a physical copy, I will keep buying physical copies.

As far as Team Fortress goes, valve still did not develop it or the idea. Credit still goes to the original mod makers of the original team fortress for Quake 1, even if they did join Valve years after making the mod. Valve acquired the rights to the mod, but it makes no sense to credit Valve with its creation.

Modifications of the team fortress concept have been revived before Valve's TFC as well, such as with the EXTREMELY well polished Weapons Factory mod for Quake 2 which IMO, did Team Fortress better than even Team Fortress Classic.

I've never had a problem "co ordinating" games online, but that must be because everyone I know uses either MSN or Aim and I have both running all the time.

10-22-2011, 04:40 PM	#11
Pintint Needs to be 20% cooler Posts: 2,614	I dont get where you insist that I am "harping" on Valve. I dont care about Valve. Their games haven't entertained me since Half Life 1, I dont like Steam, so I have no problem not buying something I dont like. Trying to sit here and prove to me that Half Life 2 and Valve are the greatest things of all time is futile. Nor am I going to suddenly going to start supporting "all digital" downloads, even if the future is heading there. I am going to keep buying retail as long as it is available at retail. If I can get more for my money (which I DO) by buying a physical copy, I will keep buying physical copies. As far as Team Fortress goes, valve still did not develop it or the idea. Credit still goes to the original mod makers of the original team fortress for Quake 1, even if they did join Valve years after making the mod. Valve acquired the rights to the mod, but it makes no sense to credit Valve with its creation. Modifications of the team fortress concept have been revived before Valve's TFC as well, such as with the EXTREMELY well polished Weapons Factory mod for Quake 2 which IMO, did Team Fortress better than even Team Fortress Classic. I've never had a problem "co ordinating" games online, but that must be because everyone I know uses either MSN or Aim and I have both running all the time.