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Old 06-03-2004, 05:16 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim
If you take away the last .4 seconds of game 5 in the Lakers-Spurs series then the Spurs would be in the finals right now.

And Robinson was a shell of his former self last year, so I don't know how you can say that Duncan is nothing without him. Especially since he was still second in MVP voting this year.

Don't get me wrong, KG is amazing but you can't say that he single handedly took the Kings to 7. Especially since he didn't have an amazing game until game 7, and considering that Webber with one leg was guarding him, that is pretty sad.

Duncan has 2 rings and 2 MVP trophies, he won that last title by himself, I don't care what you say Robinson was nothing more than a role player at best.
Robinson was a defender, a leader, a tough, aggressive player. Rasho is a creampuff. He's a 7' small forward with the shooting ability of a Center. Robinson helped defend Shaq. Trust me, I'm a Wolves fan. I know that Rasho is fucking afraid of Shaq. Always has been. Robinson wasn't. He made things easier for Duncan last year. Role player or not, he was a key piece to the Spurs beating the Lakers. Just like he (Robinson) was the one who took the championship a few years earlier, with help from Duncan.

Duncan hit a fluke shot with .4 seconds left. Fisher hit one of his own. The Spurs were still up 2-1. NBA Finals? You have no idea. Conceivably, there would have been 7 games. And if Fisher didn't hit that shot, maybe Minnesota could be in the finals (taking on a fully-rested Lakers with 1 day rest for the banged-up wolves, wtf, THANKS FOR CHOKING, SPURS).

Anyway, KG got help, yes, but he was the MVP of the Kings series. No doubt about it. And when it came time, he was the only T'Wolf to step up in Game 7.

Against Webber with one leg? Did you not see that series? Most of the time when KG wasn't being triple-teamed, he had Brad Miller beating the shit out of him. Webber.

Yeah Webber hit lots of shots. So what? KG was guarding the post and leaving Webber open for mid-range jumpers. They made the choice. It wasn't KG not being able to guard Webber... it's him not trying.

Speaking of being triple teamed, that leads me to my next point: KG gets triple teamed, and the rest of the team stands around, we will lose. KG gets triple teamed and players get open AND HIT THEIR SHOTS, we win. Spre, Sam, Wally, Hoiberg, Hassell, all had moments when they were wide open as hell. The Centers, too. Everyone but the Centers stepped up vs the Kings... and vs the Lakers, Spre was the only help KG got.

Anyway, you closed your post by saying 2 trophies... 2 rings... KG was far and away the most valuable player to his team in the NBA last year, but it's not about that, it's about "best player of best team," therefore Duncan got it. But when you look at the stats of when he's in or not in a game, without KG... there was no T'Wolves team. And whether Robinson was a force or not last year... he was still the Admiral, and he still defended Shaq way way way way better than Rasho did.
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