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Old 07-04-2012, 07:55 PM   #8
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hmmmm here is another thread that mr c. just completely plagiarized....

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a few hours after this is posted on rajah... (Thread titled: How do you make the matches matter?)

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Originally Posted by Wolverine04Grad View Post
After quite a few years as a huge fans of professional wrestling (mostly WWF/E), I've heard quite a few complaints about the product, some valid and some not. The one that bugs me more than any other is how little the outcome of most television matches seems to matter. With the exception of matches that are clearly defined as Championship or No. 1 Contender's matches, very few of the outcomes of matches shown on television (even a lot of pay-per-view matches) have any effect on a wrestler's place on the card or his standing in relation to the WWE or World Championship.

Sure, it's easy to spot a wrestler's place on the card by the amount of television time devoted to him and the placement of his matches on the television show and pay-per-views, and it's obvious that the more TV time he's garnering, the closer he is to getting one of the belts. But winning and losing doesn't seem to have much of an effect on the chase for the title belts. Consequently, it's hard to become emotionally invested in most of the matches on RAW and Smackdown, because who wins doesn't seem to matter much (again, unless a title match or the belt itself is specifically on the line).

When I watch my favorite baseball or football team play, I care deeply about whether they win or lose, because I know how winning or losing affects their chances at winning a championship. I don't feel that way about my favorite wrestlers, though, because there is a disconnect between winning or losing on RAW and getting a title shot.

I could think of multiple examples, but the one that sticks out most in the current product is Dolph Ziggler. Like most of the IWC folks, I'm a big Dolph fan, and I think he's a future star of the company. And based on the amount of TV time he's received for the last year, I think WWE feels the same way. He is one of the few guys nowadays that I stop and watch every time he's on screen.

And I was happy to see him get a title shot at the last pay-per-view, but it hit me: besides winning the No. 1 Contender's match on RAW, what had he done to earn a title shot? It sure seemed like he had done a lot of jobbing lately (albeit mostly jobbing to main event guys). Sure enough, I checked a website that tracks win-loss records for televised WWE shows, and Ziggler has won only 11 of his 39 televised matches this year. He had lost his last nine televised matches (about two months' worth) before winning the No. 1 Contender's match.

Now, none of the "real" sports teams that I follow would be anywhere near a championship game if they had won only 11 of their 39 matches during the season. And although WWE doesn't acknowledge win-loss records, I feel like most fans know when a guy loses a lot.

And this isn't just a Ziggler argument. Very rarely does WWE try to establish how a match on television affects the title hunt.

So my question is this: does it even matter to you that most televised matches don't seem to affect the title hunt?

And if it does matter, what can WWE do to make matches seem relevant to the title hunt?

this thread and post come along...


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Originally Posted by Mr. C View Post
After quite a few years as a fan of professional wrestling, I’ve heard complaints about the product, some valid and some not. The one that bugs me more than any other is how little the outcome of most matches seems to matter. It's hard to become emotionally invested in most of the matches on RAW and SmackDown, because who wins doesn't seem to matter much. Very rarely does the WWE try to establish how a match on television affects the title hunt.

An Intercontinental title match should be an adequate RAW main event, but with having so much time to fill with content these days, it really won’t happen. I know the idea is that you’re in this business to become the WWE Champion, but not everyone there is the champion. That’s lost in creative, as well as some of the wrestlers who are just pegged to become stars right out the gate. Yes, I want guys like Dolph Ziggler and Wade Barrett to get the title and have a reign, but when they’re not challenging for the title or fighting John Cena, they’re lost in the shuffle.
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