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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan Abuse of pain killers. I don't think you can count a prescription used "properly" in the same vain as Jeff Hardy doing coke for breakfast.

prescriptions get used properly in a a cushy fantasy world, in reality they're as easy to get hold of as gear and I know you don't believe the guys that supply that always do so legally. And when you hear of guys needing pills to sleep, pills to wake up and "get going" etc, that's equally as "detrimental", in fact more so, as Jeff Hardy doing coke for breakfast. Besides, I never said that everybody likes to do Jeff Hardy amounts of drugs, it's just there.

Originally Posted by Keith Jeff Hardy has been given more opportunities to shine and be the man after fucking up than anyone else in history. I guess there's something to be said for that.

dunno about that. As I said, in terms of "second chances", he fucked up once. Every other "opportunity" he's been given has been an the same ground/level pegging as anybody else.

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Has anyone really taken it towards wrestling, though? Besides maybe a few Punktards, that is.

I did read the whole post, just cut most of it out to save people scrolling through again but to an extent, yeah and as your following line states, it's usually some variety of "not very intelligent" people. But as my post that you quoted said, it was more aimed at life in general and the self-righteous type that have this notion that if a person enjoys taking drugs, they must therefore be a worthless member of society.

But the stuff in wrestling alone is annoying enough. I guess my point is the "sheep"/pile-on nature in general with wrestling fans. Jeff Hardy likes to take recreational drugs. This is no secret. I believe he has essentially walked away from a very high paying and prominent job with WWE twice so that he could essentially partake in taking lots of drugs whilst also giving his broken ass body a chance to recover somewhat and wind down from road "burn out". Outside of his pain pill problem back in 2002/3 (a problem which is ridiculously common amongst wrestlers and even then, it didn't translate to TV) he has only fucked up once at that TNA PPV. If the guy chooses to get high off his tits away from the wrestling business, it has fuck all to do with anybody else. The only thing wrestling fans should have anything to say about is whether or not he's doing his job properly. And outside of that one incident last year, he's never failed to do that.

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla TNA has clearly forgiven him for his past transgressions. It would be a waste of everyone's time to continue punishing him at this point.

this x1000. It makes me laugh when people write off and severely question certain decisions made by big wrestling companies in regards to the well-being and use of their talent when their view is coming mostly through a computer monitor as opposed to actually being around/employing/knowing/having far more insight into a person/persons. Even things like guys getting pushed. See: Lance Storm. You see a lot of people saying "Lance Storm should have been pushed all the way" when all 3 major wrestling organizations of the 90's/early 2000's with a hell of a lot more of an idea/experience/a clue than these people all thought differently.

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Hasn't this professional company let Road Dogg and X-Pac wrestle shitfaced in the past?

absolutely no idea, have never heard of it. Wouldn't be surprised tho, these guys are/were practically drug pros, wouldn't shock me at all that they could essentially hide it well enough.