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Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar Stunner, RockBottom/People's Elbow, Pedigree, Tombstone, Diamond Cutter, figure Four- each great wrestler and main eventer has a finisher that geeks the crowd and fits into the wrestlers personality. It still matters.

I agree with you, and was with you up until Figure Four, Flair has said himself that he doesn't remember that last time he beat anybody with it. How important has that ben in the later part of his career? Could someone get over with the figure four nowadays given the high pace of matches and the amount of run-ins?

Originally Posted by Gertner Except in ROH where you have to hit your finisher ten times to get a pin due to "fighting spirit"

Hate this too, really irritating and really poor psychology. I think some of these guys blandness comes from the fact that their characters are so poorly defined and seperated from the rest, and having a dangerous finisher that actually works plays into that.

Originally Posted by CSL a recognizable finish should be a big part of building a match for any babyface with half a clue, especially a finish that's over personally prefer things that can be done "out of nowhere" or on anybody, perfect example being you mentioning Orton/the RKO

So how important would you say a move like that is in getting over? Where do you think Orton would be if his finisher was a dragon sleeper or something?