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**Bobo** · 01-04-2014, 10:23 PM

WWE

Good: history, prestige, some of the Ppvs are highlights on the pro wrestling and sporting calendar e.g. wm, rr, sslm etc., iconic stars who have been made at and or wrestled in the promotion, they defined wrestling, their stars transcended the profession and popular culture.

Bad: post the demise of WCW and ECW, they've not had any legitimate competition and hence the brand and quality of the programming has suffered, questionable bookings, recent trend behind the scenes to focus on big muscly guys rather than focussing on who can wrestle or perform the best, way too commercialised with all the stupid sponsorship spots and ridiculous BS campaigns like Be a start etc. also not keen on their very vocal political opinions particularly the whole hoo hah regarding Bin Laden's death. The way they celebrated was as if wwe themselves had apprehended and killed the man. It was a watershed moment I agree but nothing to celebrate, can't help but feel it desecrated the memory of all those killed in 9/11, soldiers killed and innocent civilians killed.

In trying to be PG and make 'funny' story lines they've ended up being controversial e.g. Poking fun at Jerry Lawler's heart attack even with his permission, the Zeb Colter skits though funny come across as xenophobic and racist, JBL's infamous skit on the 'Mexican border'.

Comments being made 'out of character' e.g. HHH slating Jericho, Edge and RVD as never being big stars but one could argue all three of those were much bigger stars at their peak and even still than HHH ever was or ever will be. Entertainment or not WWE needs to exercise a degree of professionalism and respect towards its stars but these people are hardly the sort that fall under the category of civilised, moral individuals.

Lack of a decent divas division in that most matches tend to be 8 person tag teams lasting barely three minutes.

The fact they seem to dance to the tune of their top stars I.e. The likes of undertaker, lesnar etc picking and choosing when they appear rather than making a regular spot. The whole point of wwe programming is for regular consistency. I get he impression these big stars consider themselves to be mercenaries and wwe management are happy to treat them as such.

Certainly the programming has died in quality post 2002 maybe 2005 at the latest.

01-04-2014, 10:23 PM	#5
Bobo Posts: 391	WWE Good: history, prestige, some of the Ppvs are highlights on the pro wrestling and sporting calendar e.g. wm, rr, sslm etc., iconic stars who have been made at and or wrestled in the promotion, they defined wrestling, their stars transcended the profession and popular culture. Bad: post the demise of WCW and ECW, they've not had any legitimate competition and hence the brand and quality of the programming has suffered, questionable bookings, recent trend behind the scenes to focus on big muscly guys rather than focussing on who can wrestle or perform the best, way too commercialised with all the stupid sponsorship spots and ridiculous BS campaigns like Be a start etc. also not keen on their very vocal political opinions particularly the whole hoo hah regarding Bin Laden's death. The way they celebrated was as if wwe themselves had apprehended and killed the man. It was a watershed moment I agree but nothing to celebrate, can't help but feel it desecrated the memory of all those killed in 9/11, soldiers killed and innocent civilians killed. In trying to be PG and make 'funny' story lines they've ended up being controversial e.g. Poking fun at Jerry Lawler's heart attack even with his permission, the Zeb Colter skits though funny come across as xenophobic and racist, JBL's infamous skit on the 'Mexican border'. Comments being made 'out of character' e.g. HHH slating Jericho, Edge and RVD as never being big stars but one could argue all three of those were much bigger stars at their peak and even still than HHH ever was or ever will be. Entertainment or not WWE needs to exercise a degree of professionalism and respect towards its stars but these people are hardly the sort that fall under the category of civilised, moral individuals. Lack of a decent divas division in that most matches tend to be 8 person tag teams lasting barely three minutes. The fact they seem to dance to the tune of their top stars I.e. The likes of undertaker, lesnar etc picking and choosing when they appear rather than making a regular spot. The whole point of wwe programming is for regular consistency. I get he impression these big stars consider themselves to be mercenaries and wwe management are happy to treat them as such. Certainly the programming has died in quality post 2002 maybe 2005 at the latest.