[Wishbone]

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD Harley's accent isn't make or break for me but it would have been nice. She seems intact otherwise. Joker is Joker. I mean we can't wait just line him up with TDK Joker because he's almost out of context. We are never getting something like that again with Joker. Moving on.

TDK Joker was great and all, but I wish people would stop using it as the benchmark for a good representation of the Joker. Honestly Jack Nicholson was the closest we've ever gotten to a true adaptation of the Joker in a movie, and even he wasn't as accurate as he could have been. TDK Joker was an amazing character, but he lacked a lot of what makes the Joker the Joker. Of course the Nolan films as a whole lacked a lot of what makes the Batman mythos the Batman mythos so it's no surprise that its Joker wouldn't quite hit it.

As for Leto's Joker, well, it is probably the farthest from the character we've ever seen in terms of presentation. He doesn't fit the more modern psycho monster Joker, but he doesn't fit the old school Clown Prince of Crime Joker either. Yeah, his performance might end up being decent (though given what we've seen from other characters I'm not holding my breath), but the look is just god awful. How can anyone justify that? It'd be like having Superman start rocking Jordans and wearing a big ass chain around his neck. If you're into hip-hop culture that's fine, but it has no place with these characters, period.