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I can get the criticisms about Ziggler. As a heel with Vickie Guerrero, I thought he was tremendous. I think his original face turn was down-played and he never really got the shot he needed to make it as a main event act. That being said, I find it hard to get excited about him. He's a pinball, but he doesn't have the "gravity" of a major star. He's missing something, and it's not something really easy to pin down like ring work or mic skills. It's not even charisma. He just doesn't have that "heavy" quality. Maybe a heel turn after a "snap" would do him some good?
I can get the things about Edge too. There were times when I loved Edge, but I don't think everything adds up to him being one of the greatest of all-time. I think he's put on a bit of a pedestal by the company.
Randy Orton is another guy that is clearly great, but I just don't "get it." I mean, obvious he can work and he can talk and he looks good -- but I don't miss him when he's gone. Ever. Yet he's a guy that makes every great wrestling mind drool -- whether it's Eric Bischoff or Paul Heyman.
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