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**Moonax** · 07-23-2004, 07:15 PM

Well it looks like 'Cheating' Lance is going to win a 6th tour.

I notice that he has decided not to race in the Olympics where of course they have much stricter drug testing than in the Tour.

Stima, you are simply highlighting your ignorance. EPO is a blood-booster, the only way that you can tell if someone is using it is if they have an abnormally high red-blood cell count. if it is above 5% then you are stood down from racing. It doesn't show up like steriods do. Given how precise cyclists are with their health levels it is ridiculous to think that when armstrong takes EPO that he doesn't know what his blood cell count is and how much EPO to take so that he does not cross the threshold.

David Millar was banned for 2 years for taking EPO and he has never tested positive either.

can either of you explain to me why Armstrong remains so close to Dr Michele Ferrari? Ferrari is the cycling worlds Victor Conte.

BCWWF - actually it is unheard of for anyone to be the best time trialist and the best climber because as I have said it is the equivilent of being the best 100 meter runner and the best mile runner. Two different skills that require two different types of physical form.

The training age argument is poor. The sudden improvement in Armstrong is basically the same improvement in performance that Tim Montgomery managed, or the Chinese middle distance athletes managed.

Armstrong will never be in the same class as Eddie Merckx. Merckx won the tour 5 times, he won three world championships, set the world hour record. Won the Tour/Giro double. (That is to say, won the Tour de France and the Tour of Italy both 21 day races in the same year.) Armstrong only races the Tour. Look at how many stages that Merckx won, look at how many more days Merckx spent in yellow. I also feel that Armstrong has had no serious competition contrasted with the people that Merckx raced against: Gimondi, Poulidor, Ocana,Thevenet etc. Nor do I think that Armstrong is even as good as Miguel Indurain.

07-23-2004, 07:15 PM	#20
Moonax Sunteti chiar prost? Posts: 15,102	Well it looks like 'Cheating' Lance is going to win a 6th tour. I notice that he has decided not to race in the Olympics where of course they have much stricter drug testing than in the Tour. Stima, you are simply highlighting your ignorance. EPO is a blood-booster, the only way that you can tell if someone is using it is if they have an abnormally high red-blood cell count. if it is above 5% then you are stood down from racing. It doesn't show up like steriods do. Given how precise cyclists are with their health levels it is ridiculous to think that when armstrong takes EPO that he doesn't know what his blood cell count is and how much EPO to take so that he does not cross the threshold. David Millar was banned for 2 years for taking EPO and he has never tested positive either. can either of you explain to me why Armstrong remains so close to Dr Michele Ferrari? Ferrari is the cycling worlds Victor Conte. BCWWF - actually it is unheard of for anyone to be the best time trialist and the best climber because as I have said it is the equivilent of being the best 100 meter runner and the best mile runner. Two different skills that require two different types of physical form. The training age argument is poor. The sudden improvement in Armstrong is basically the same improvement in performance that Tim Montgomery managed, or the Chinese middle distance athletes managed. Armstrong will never be in the same class as Eddie Merckx. Merckx won the tour 5 times, he won three world championships, set the world hour record. Won the Tour/Giro double. (That is to say, won the Tour de France and the Tour of Italy both 21 day races in the same year.) Armstrong only races the Tour. Look at how many stages that Merckx won, look at how many more days Merckx spent in yellow. I also feel that Armstrong has had no serious competition contrasted with the people that Merckx raced against: Gimondi, Poulidor, Ocana,Thevenet etc. Nor do I think that Armstrong is even as good as Miguel Indurain.