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Old 01-14-2017, 03:45 AM   #31551
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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 View Post
That Cornette rant, btw, is a nice example of why people shit on him and think he's out of touch.
This will be interesting.

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The matches he feels are 5 stars are 20 to 30 years old. More of them closer to or older than 30.
Are you alleging that something needs to be modern to be good? You surely wouldn't make the case that Funk/Lawler or Bret/Austin weren't great matches would you? I don't want to put words into your mouth though, so please explain this point about age. Is it just that there isn't anything modern on it? I've heard Cornette praise quite a bit of modern stuff -- Tyler Black vs. Davey Richards, the work of Adam Cole, Jay Lethal, The Briscoes, Cesaro, American Alpha, DIY, The Revival, etc.

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He spends a good portion shitting on Omega based on what he saw 10 years ago.
He shits on him because of his personal interactions with him and the fact that he was a shitty, shitty wrestler.

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Not to mention, outside of one spot, I don't think he complimented the match at all. I get that it's all subjective, but Jesus even if it's not your cup of tea, how anyone cannot watch Okada v Omega and think that it was a good to excellent main event match is beyond me.
Cornette praised the athleticism. He praised Okada's dropkick and said that the spots were crisp. He praised the accuracy of the bump through the table. Sorry, but this is just incorrect.

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Cornette is still talking like it's the 80s with the idea that you have to present it like a real fight. People know it's a work. Times have changed. It'd be like someone telling the guys in the 80s that they needed to replicate the old timey style of the 50s.
This is probably a large part of what holds wrestling back today, to be honest. People know it is a work, but they don't believe in anything or anyone. People knew that wrestling was fake when Stone Cold was around, but they still believed in him. Expectations have been lowered A LOT.

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Wrestling evolves and what worked then doesn't work now. I feel like Cornette doesn't really get that, or he doesn't accept it.
This would be a fair point, except to say that I don't think it wouldn't work now. I think it would. I don't think what "works" now actually works as well as people think it does (hence why wrestling is in a hole) and that it certainly wouldn't have worked back then. People use the word "evolves" but I think it's a trend in the opposite direction. You have so many guys getting hurt and breaking their necks for nobody. It's gotten a lot stupider, even if it acts like it's less carny and more sophisticated. It's less art and more white noise bullshit.

I think you're right that Cornette doesn't like that wrestling has changed. I don't think you're right that he hasn't accepted it. He even says in that video something like "I guess that's what people want to see these days" or something like that. But his current hobby is tearing the holes in it open. I think he's accepted it just fine -- he just doesn't want it to be the case.
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