[Destor]

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan I think you're giving Taker way more credit for the streak than you should. He was booked to win matches. It really had nothing to do with him. If you wanna praise him for the matches in the streak, that's one thing. But "he was booked to win matches" doesn't really speak to how good he was as a wrestler at all.

STDesqu post and im not even going to entertain this logic.

Originally Posted by Fastway Going to have to think about this one... Savages' run in the WWf was cut short due to Vince feeling he was too old and his Wcw stuff was hindered by Hogan's influence Taker has had a long career full of memorable moments but i feel that aside from maybe his match with Punk, Taker really should have had his last match with Micheals and the longer his "remains" remain in the WWe the more his legacy will be tarnished.

Savages WCW run was hindered by him being washed up, youre trying really hard to act like savage is immune to failure. He peaked and never got hot again in any major way. Anything else is just making excuses.

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin Look, I love Taker. But lets be honest here: his entire gimmick consisted of a sweet fucking entrance and no-selling. He was a gimmick change away from being Oz / Kevin Nash. Still a good career. Some might even say great. Nash had his moments. I hate saying this about him, but Taker was the right look for the right gimmick at the right time. When you ask people on the street what person comes to their mind when you say wrestling, #1 is gonna be Hogan. #2 is gonna be Macho Man for anyone who didn't exclusively grow up with Cena on top. Macho Man is synonymous with wrestling. The look. The hair. The robes. The glasses. The music. The personality. The athleticism. His name is MACHO. Macho Man ran a program that at the end made grown men cry. You get chills watching it to this day if you don't shed a lil tear yourself. FFS, Jay Lethal imitates him and the crowd goes insane. They go nuts for it because Macho Man Randy Savage was one of the greatest of all time. Macho Man = wrestling. We love it. DIG IT!

what? No. Austin. Rock. Even Flair. I think you think everyone grew up when you did.

Originally Posted by Maluco Honestly, would argue this point too. I don't think those Mania matches had a particularly good storyline or build. They were good matches, and the matches themselves, particularly the last one, told a good story, but Mega Powers was THE big story in the company for a full year and was built so well. Savage played his role brilliantly in it too. Savage was definitely the better performer outside of the ring. He could elicit real emotion and people like Hogan have gone on record as saying that he brought another level out of them. Undertaker couldn't tell a story or elicit an emotional response like Savage could, not even close.

I think all these things would completely depend on how old you are. Maybe you werent as a effected by them but a generation of fans were. But to act like people have a flat emotionless reaction to taker is just weird. He is in a very small group that contains Hogan, Rock, Austin, HBM and yes Savage that connected to a huge ammount of people in a unique and profound way. Hes not..... i dunno, artificially over. Savage had a better promo. Sure. Illl give that.