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Old 08-28-2017, 07:56 AM   #398
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Originally Posted by Fignuts View Post
Once in a while I might be in the mood for an Ebessan Vs Kamen match, but for the most part, the comedy stuff doesn't interest me. So you know what I do? I don't watch it. I go watch the type of wrestling I do like.
I'd argue that Ebessan vs. Kamen are the George Carlin of comedy matches, while Joey Ryan is the Larry the Cable Guy of same.

1. Their classic stuff was pretty much making fun of the tropes of wrestling itself. Like the arm bar spot looking like a dance bit so it devolves into them dancing with each other. Or the International being subverted with a stomp after the drop down.

2. Ebessan was in a six man mixed tag where one of the opponents was Super Delphin (sp?). Delphin made a hot tag and had Ebessan begging off in the corner. Ebessan took the opportunity to... ask for a raise. (Super Delphin ran Osaka Pro, which is their primary promotion)

3. Samoa Joe used to do a spot where he'd casually walk out of a corner to avoid an opponent charging for an aerial move, looking over the shoulder like they are dumb asses. It was a serious take on an Ebessan spot, which took something goofy and made himself look bad ass. I can't think of a way that the Dick Flip can be done seriously and people buy it.

4. The most important thing right here. Despite all that, what makes Ebessan and Kamen different from the likes of Ryan and Santino was this: They were actually GOOD WORKERS. Kamen was one hell of an aerialist, and Ebessan/Kikutaro has the best Shining Wizard outside of Mutoh himself. Both were capable of having damn good matches that were serious. Don't believe me? Look up Ebessan vs. Jushin Liger.

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Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis
You know who Cornette or anyone never goes after when they mention Ryan? Danshoku Dino, the guy who gave him the dick flip spot in the first place and has been doing a much more homo-erotic number of penis spots for the past ten years in DDT. Ryan isn't even doing anything new. Ignorance. Such ignorance.
The initial dick spot with Dino, oddly enough, was the only time the Dick Spot was actually funny.
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