[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Ruien Everyone who has attended an event live here at TPWW has stated he gets the best reactions. But go off the 3 YouTube clips you watched.

So you'd rather me take anecdotal evidence as opposed to what I can actually see and hear with my own eyes and ears?

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan I've watched Raw probably as much as you and I've seen him get by far the biggest reactions on shows. It's not much sometimes especially if you're looking for attitude era pops. But unless you're bringing The Rock or Hogan in long term, you're not gonna find a better choice to win something like this. He's over by today's standards. He gets a reaction. He's a prototypical larger-than-life WWE guy, casuals seem to like him AND the IWC seems to like him. That's a rare combination. Granted most of that is good booking (Which is insane to think given the fact that WWE couldn't book a group of big-titted strippers to be over in a prison) but he's over. Regardless of how WWE has started the process of fucking him up by having him be "silly" lately, for tonight at least they made the right move.

I just watched a clip of him interrupting Triple H. You can see a few people stand up and go "Yay!". He might be one of the most over guys they have, but that is a damning indictment.

Originally Posted by Seph Noid....Braun is mega over. The only internet bullshit over him is that which is coming out of your mouth. You don't like him so he's dumb and not over. That's really all this is. It's like your hatred of the fact that some people like the Broken Hardy gimmick.

What evidence do you have for that? He's behind Cena, Styles, Reigns and Rusev in terms of merchandise sales. I think I've read he's behind Rollins and Balor too. With Rey coming back, he'll likely be bumped from that spot. New Day and Usos always seem to be contenders too. Elias was in the top movers last month, which Braun was not. And that's only counting the men. When you factor in Ronda Rousey, he surely goes down even further. His reactions are mild compared to pops when guys were actually over. By what metric are you talking about? Because a bunch of people in the Raw Thread each week talk about how great he is? Come on.

My annoyance with the Broken gimmick was with people saying that it was effective. There is a big difference between liking something and saying that it draws. I know that's hard for some people to understand. But again, <400,000 people watched TNA when he did it, and only about 1 million people watched it on YouTube. Jeff's healing is now up to 2.3. By comparison, The Hardys return got 2 million within a few hours. I don't have evidence for that recorded, but it is currently at 23 million. You would need to get everyone who watched Broken Matt in TNA to split into 50 people to enter the ballpark.

So, tell me which gimmick is more over -- Broken Matt or The Hardy Boyz?

Originally Posted by Slik Noid doesn't like Bliss?!

She's fine. She's good for a girl who has only been doing it for about 5 years. She's pretty uninspiring in the ring and her promo material is usually awful. She's overrated as an actress and the gimmick is pretty cliche. People jizz over her because she put her hair up in pigtails and she's got a great ass. If I had to trim the talent roster, I'd definitely keep her. I just think it's ridiculous when people say things like "she's the best women's wrestler they have," and "she's better than Natalya." Both are statements I saw here. That's ridiculous.