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Old 08-27-2018, 06:04 PM   #102
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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 View Post
We all know that aspect of it, but that still doesn't mean they have to book it so badly.

And why did Carmella have to win just because she had the briefcase? If I am being honest, I would rather have the 1st Royal Rumble winner finish the story than the 1st MITB winner.

And again, this ALL boils down to Asuka changing brands to become a jobber.

WWE called her up to Raw, was sole survivor at Survivor Series, won the Rumble, remained undefeated, spent weeks building towards Asuka vs Alexa, then out of nowhere she goes to Smackdown to be a jobber?

All for what, to accomplish what?

3+ years of building Asuka so they can at the last moment put switch to Nia Jax??

The writers/Vince actually thought THIS was better than the payoff of Asuka's crowning moment at Mania.

Fast forward 4 months and Asuka hasn't even had a match in going out 2
Months.

Is Charlotte anymore over because she beat Asuka, or did she get booed at Summerslam because she has been overplayed?

Is Nia Jax a star, or is she already completely forgotten and just another female on the roster?

They ruined Asuka with the end result being not getting a single other person over.

The only thing that came from it was a short lived return of James Ellsworth, who they didn't even resign.
To take things in order (and sorry to be argumentative, I do like you as a poster, I'm just going through to be thorough:

* No, but it was obvious she was going to be. They were pushing Alexa Bliss and Carmella on the main roster before they were pushing her. This was prior knowledge. I mean, there's generally expecting WWE to fuck it up, but I'm talking specifically look at the players -- how good was Asuka vs. Alexa Bliss going to actually be? That needs to be what you get excited for in order to get excited for Asuka on the main roster. In my opinion, anyway. Anything else is kind of naive.

* Because they were pushing her and every girl gets a run with the belt in order to show them "respect" and because they genuinely think that she has what it takes to be a star because she looks good nekkid and probably works hard in the right ways. This is not a division where merit directly corresponds to success. Hell, this isn't a company for that. They were coming up to the next Women's Money in the Bank and didn't want to admit the first one was a bust publicly. There was no way Carmella was flubbing her cash in. I'd rather neither happened and instead the women were booked to have their own storylines instead of putting on mustaches and trying to get booked into the men's. But the WWE doesn't really center things like that. We've got a Hell in a Cell PPV coming up, and by crikey, we're going to have a Hell in a Cell match. It doesn't matter if the women have trouble making it over the top rope -- we're going to have a Royal Rumble Match for them, because everyone wants a Royal Rumble Match. A round robin would probably work better for the women, and it can keep an "RR" connotation and be marketed with a similar aesthetic, but nah.

* Okay, but what did you expect to happen when she lost? For independent talent to be flown in just to feed to her? If that happened, we'd be complaining that it's the same story they just told and failed with.

* Yeah, okay, but that's because she was getting a push and focused on. Now she's not getting a push and getting focused on. When she is getting a push and focused on she will get a push and be focused on. I think you're upset that she's not getting a push and focused on. But that will happen again.

* They milked her for what they wanted to get. That's what they do. Nia Jax was always going to be focused on. She's The Rock's cousin. I don't get how this is surprising, I was saying that this was going to happen back when Asuka was in NXT. You have to push Alexa Bliss, Charlotte and Nia Jax in their cosmos. If there are only four spots of real priority, then that leaves one for someone to fill as their contemporary. Asuka got to do it for a few months. Now Ronda Rousey is in and Becky Lynch is getting that push. Soon it won't be Becky Lynch and someone else will have a turn. Maybe Naomi will turn heel? Maybe they call in Shayna and use her for a few months? Maybe then it will be Asuka's again? I don't know why anyone expected this to become The Asuka Division.

* You say it was Asuka's crowning moment at WrestleMania, but it wasn't -- it was Charlotte's. I agree that having Charlotte lose the next week is counterproductive to that, but they wanted people to come out of WrestleMania thinking about "Ronda and Charlotte, Ronda and Charlotte." They are now fucking that up in their own way by cunting up Charlotte by pushing the fans to the point where they are likely to hijack her stuff now. That's the real travesty here.

* Asuka not having a match in 2 months is probably to refresh her, both on-air and off. I'm sure she's happy getting her paycheck and yucking it up with Vince. That's probably why she signed in the first place.

* Nia Jax is Nia Jax. She's not like most girls. She's not getting focused on right now. And she sucks. But she's still there and will come out and win another belt sometime soon. I dunno, I'd say she's not a star, but you tell me that. That is what they want to do and what they are going to do with every girl they cycle in and out of the spot. That's exactly my point.

* Asuka is not ruined by WWE standards. That's like A2 of my point. She's not world-beating, but that's because they don't do that. They were never going to do that. Charlotte, Ronda, Alexa, Nikki Bella and Nia Jax are all higher priorities for WrestleMania next year. That has never changed. You can argue that Asuka is #6. That was as high as she was ever going to get. I could have told you that before she came in. It's been clear that was always going to be the way for some time.

* When Charlotte, Becky and Sasha debuted on the main roster, they were made to be contemporaries of The Bella Twins & Alicia Fox. It was all over then. June 2015, or whenever that was.
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