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**The CyNick** · 08-11-2004, 07:01 PM

My logic says that the RAW World title = the real IC title, the real US title, the Euro and HC titles all combined together. But has no lineage to the WCW World Title.

Obviously a company can do whatever they want in terms of what they say is true, but when we are talking about lineage, a company shouldn't be able to just make it up as they go. Matches happen, and they have a result, and the results should matter. I mean 20 years from now they could claim Hunter won a 16 man tournament in Rio to win the World Heavyweight title in 2002. That wouldn't be true, but they could claim it, and since they own all the footage and stuff nobody would be able to dispute their claim to a wide audience. I just try to look at these things from a realistic POV, which as I stated is really stupid with this issue.

The new titles created after the split (World Title, SD tag, and the new version of the IC and US titles) are not worthless, they just dont have any history beyond their creation date (02-03). For example, I think you could make a case that the World Title on RAW despite having no lineage is still more prestigious than the WWE Title on SD because it has been booked better this year. Similarly when they created the SD tag titles, I thought those were more valuable than the RAW version (which has the history) because on SD they had much better matches and the division seemed to matter. Just because a title has very little history doesn't mean it isn't meaningful.

The CW title as best as I can remember is legit because it was kept in tact after it was unified (WCW CW title + WWF LHW title).

As for the WCW tag titles, well the WCW World Title was a worthless piece of shit in the last few years of WCW's existence but they still try to claim its lineage is in tact. So that doesn't hold water. And since they use the WWE initials for all the SD titles, why dont they claim the SD tag titles carry the lineage of the WWF tag titles (the ones won by the Bulldogs, the Harts, Demolition and so on)? They dont, because they are new titles, just like the RAW World Title was a new title created specifically for RAW.

08-11-2004, 07:01 PM	#8
The CyNick Make the IWC Great Again Posts: 8,922	My logic says that the RAW World title = the real IC title, the real US title, the Euro and HC titles all combined together. But has no lineage to the WCW World Title. Obviously a company can do whatever they want in terms of what they say is true, but when we are talking about lineage, a company shouldn't be able to just make it up as they go. Matches happen, and they have a result, and the results should matter. I mean 20 years from now they could claim Hunter won a 16 man tournament in Rio to win the World Heavyweight title in 2002. That wouldn't be true, but they could claim it, and since they own all the footage and stuff nobody would be able to dispute their claim to a wide audience. I just try to look at these things from a realistic POV, which as I stated is really stupid with this issue. The new titles created after the split (World Title, SD tag, and the new version of the IC and US titles) are not worthless, they just dont have any history beyond their creation date (02-03). For example, I think you could make a case that the World Title on RAW despite having no lineage is still more prestigious than the WWE Title on SD because it has been booked better this year. Similarly when they created the SD tag titles, I thought those were more valuable than the RAW version (which has the history) because on SD they had much better matches and the division seemed to matter. Just because a title has very little history doesn't mean it isn't meaningful. The CW title as best as I can remember is legit because it was kept in tact after it was unified (WCW CW title + WWF LHW title). As for the WCW tag titles, well the WCW World Title was a worthless piece of shit in the last few years of WCW's existence but they still try to claim its lineage is in tact. So that doesn't hold water. And since they use the WWE initials for all the SD titles, why dont they claim the SD tag titles carry the lineage of the WWF tag titles (the ones won by the Bulldogs, the Harts, Demolition and so on)? They dont, because they are new titles, just like the RAW World Title was a new title created specifically for RAW.