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Originally Posted by The CyNick
But what successful babyface ever got over by catching a beatdown?
Hogan got over because he beat everyone, and never sold anything.
Austin got over by being a badass redneck who talks trash and beats everyone up including his boss.
Rock got over by talking smack and of course beating on everyone.
I cant think of a case where a guy was a heel, then took a major beatdown and because of that became a major babyface. Obviously Orton will have to do some work, but especially if he's going to drop the title in Sept, I think this will be a major uphill battle.
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Yeah, I was just trying to think of an instance, but can't. Has anyone ever gotten kicked out of a stable before and turned face? Well Farroq did, but that was nothing cause roles were reversed there then what we have now.
Orton better not be taken out next week. They NEED to end the show w/ Orton laying out all of Evolution with a steel chair and ending it with him standing strong over all of them.