View Single Post
Old 08-19-2004, 06:19 PM   #74
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by The CyNick
I dont get your point about Eugene. Are you saying because he plays a retard its wrong to boo him? I mean I know you dont actually think he is a retard, so its not like we are insulting a retard for being a retard. Like LC said, we were turning on the WWE for force feeding us a gimmick that is right out of a tape from 1986 and doesn't belong in 2004. Nobody is against Nick Dinsmore as a person or even as a worker, we just dont like being asked to check our brains at the door by believing that Nick Dinsmore is a retard.

And are you saying Eugene is equivalent to a war hero? I think if a guy does somehting noble like serve in a war they deserve respect, but if a guy jumps in a wrestling ring and mocks retarded people and roll around in small tights with a bunch of guys, they dont really deserve any respect.

With JBL-Taker, I dont think the response was against Taker it was against the WWE for turning the WWE Championship and its rich history into a living joke with JBL. As Ive said before, I like JBL as acharcter, I dont necessarily think he's done that bad with the title, but at the same time I can understand why people would be totally against the idea of him as champ.

I mean lets say it was announced another chapter in the Godfather saga was coming out. And tickets went on sale before you knew anything about the movie. Then you get to the theatre and instead of having great actors like Robert Duvall, Al Pacino, De Niro and Marlon Brando you get Duvall with Andy Dick, Howie Mandell and Carrot Top. Do you have to sit there and 'respect it just because its the Godtaher franchise'? And even if its an average movie, wouldn't you still be upset because it makes a mokery of the Godfather franchise which was beloved and respected by many many people?

I can see this as a simialr deal. People respect the WWE Title, but when you put people who are so undersving of the spot some people, no check that a lot of people might turn on it. Its the WWE that disrespected the title by putting it on someone who never was anywhere close to the main events and before anyone was ready to accept him as a main eventer.
The point about the war hero thing was basically just a scenario I came up with. If you returned from war, and your country loved what you did for them, would they boo? If they did how would you feel. Nick Dinsmore is far from a war hero, but he goes in their for the people of Toronto, puts on great matches (just what they like to see), and he gets booed for it.

I realise that "Eugene" is an act, but I still think it's a little off to boo him because he's acting like he's supposed to. These people could have lost poor Nick his job if they kept on booing him. The current slump was blamed on Dinsmore at one stage, and that ticked me off. I'm not saying that eugene deserves respect because he's a great wrestler, but I think he deserves respect just because he can do a good job with what he has. Would it be so hard to respect that and maybe just sit silent during the match instead of booing you ass off, and insulting this guy? Quite frankly, I haven't bee fooled so to speak by the gimmick, but I can ease up on it and take it as a reasonable act. It is a little insulting at first, but it ends up being less of a mockery when people get behind the character.

I agree JBL may have been viewed as undeserving, bt he's worked his ass off for the people, and he's come off as a credible and decent worker. He's gotten more heat leading into his feuds than almost anyone else on the roster (maybe minus Eugene doing his job, no matter how degrading it is). If the people really wanted to voice their opinions, why not start a chant like "JBL Sucks" or even just cheering the heel. I think there were better ways for Toronto to handle that.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote