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Old 07-07-2020, 05:22 PM   #2765
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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat View Post
Yes. They've done it several times already.

Most recent was Alvarez feeling AEW has been starting to overthink their booking for shows to the point its been hurting more than helping them.

If you want something more of the level of Cornette, PWInsider was that during the early months of the AEW vs. NXT war where almost everything AEW was doing was getting picked apart and NXT's issues were mostly ignored. That pretty much changed after a few months when the effect of WWE becoming more hands-on and the changes made to NXT started to become more of a detriment to the brand.
Nah, Alvarez and Meltzer are not it, I'm afraid. They will call something "bad" when it is atrocious, but they will largely go out of their way to bash NXT and avoid talking shit about AEW. Alvarez was *confused* as to why AEW got beaten by NXT, when it is clear as day. He just didn't want to say "Orange Cassidy isn't going to work." Because he's worked with him and gone on the record as saying he's brilliant and what have you.

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Originally Posted by Fignuts View Post
Nah, let's get into it. Cause it's a fucking problem. Used to be that Joshi fans were just people who discovered classic AJW, and thought it was cool. It didn't really matter that they were women, although it was admittedly novel to see such great women's wrestling. The draw was the quality of the content. AJW from early 80's to late 90's is fantastic.

But then Japanese idol culture took over Joshi, and it's spawned an army of creepy man baby fans who actually use japanese phrases like "kawaii" in day to day speech as if that's normal. There's still a lot of great Joshi wrestlers out there, but the scene has absolutely suffered because of the culture shift. Less focus on athletic ability, and more focus on looks and marketability has led to lots of shitty wrestlers getting pushes when in the past, they would have been kicked out of the training group on week one.

I imagine it's a similar mentality from the Sasha and Bailey worshippers, as you put it. Admittedly, I batted hard for them early on, during the nxt days, but that was because of how good the matches were, and because it gave me hope that we might see the same AJW level quality in women's wrestling as a whole in the US. That didn't pan out, obviously.

All that said, I get why fans would get really attached to Io, because she's REALLY good in the ring. Sasha too, when she's not trying to break her own neck. But there are absolutely people who take it to far.
Is it an entirely new thing? "Celebrities" have had their toxic fans/stalkers/obsessives for a long, long time. I do wonder if it's just that the more adjusted and measured fans have been run the fuck off. Now all you've got are the gate-keepers. At least when something has a general appeal, they disappear into a crowd.
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