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Old 09-19-2004, 02:43 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by tucsonspeed6
1: The movie is set in the present. If that were the case, people haven't SEEN FREAKING ALIENS BEFORE. So why in the hell doesn't the movie turn into a "Contact" ripoff? Because it was written badly.

2: Why is it in antarctica? THe previous two Predator movies made note that the predator felt more comfortable in very hot places. This movie should have at least have been in an environment where the temperature is either hot or at least warm enough that you don't notice the temperature.

Now, I don't want to rip into you too much here, but I'm a writer just like you are. I don't consider crossovers to be entirely inspiring, but I do them every now and then to entertain my friends. But that's just the thing: they're supposed to ENTERTAIN. These "kids" as you refer to them (meaning anyone who didn't like the movie) aren't saying that they're dissatisfied about minor details in the movie. (ok, griping about the PG-13 is a little petty, but I've heard about a lot more bad in the movie than just that.)

Defending this movie because crossover scripts are hard to write just doesn't cut it anymore. Until last summer, it was impossible to write a "good" comic book adaptation, because you can't please everyone. X2 broke that trend. Then until this summer, it was impossible to write a "great" comic book adaptation for the same reasons. Spiderman 2 cured us of that ignorance. My point here is that Anderson's vision of the crossover wasn't even an effort to make a quality movie. It was made to make bucks quantitatively. Furthermore, although I agree that this movie couldn't possibly be the worst movie of all time, chances are that the writing wasn't the producer's top priority. Just making the movie was probably their top priority (because the name AvP itself could sell even if the screenplay was written by the same team as "Anacondas.")
Game storylines and movies story lines are two different experiences. We didn't have hours of play time to explore the AvP story as in it's games or novels; so somebody enjoying the those ways of telling the story would like it more. If AvP was Lord of the Rings long, maybe we could have seen the little details that come with the story, but that wasn't the case.

Respond 1:
Why would you even want a contact ripoff? Besides, in the Aliens franchise it has been established that Weyland-Yutani Enterprises has known about the Xenomorph presence; perhaps because of a certain mountain climber from years prior...

Respond 2:
Good point about the hot temperature thing. Maybe I'm taking it too far by reminding you that these were young Predators, and maybe after they earn their respect as hunters in a tougher region, they can go hunt in the prefered hot lands. That, and maybe hunting Aliens requires a different climate; as the cold helped in keeping the Queen refrigerated.

You know what was a good crossover, Transformers/GI Joe, a comic book. It was very detailed and told in a classy way. If a movie was made, after both franchises establishes themselves ofcourse, it wouldn't be as good. A crossover script is difficult when you want to entertain, and flesh out both icons histories. And then you say they aren't inspiring, as in you don't think too highly of them in the first place. They won't be inspiring if you throw a dart at superhero names and make a story out of the two names you hit; Batman/Spawn, what the heck for? But franchises that share a certain type of feeling, like two killers that never die, or alien races we keep running into, interesting stories can be made. Robocop/Terminator had a comic story that would've saved both movie series even in a shorter script form; but no one went with it seriously because cross overs were uninspired cult fan pleasers back then.

Maybe when they're given the proper respect from production companies AND fans, we'll get our X2 and Spider-Man quality crossovers.
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