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Originally Posted by Gonzo
Tiki has always been an outstanding RB. Last year his fumble problem was especially big, so I don't think he is on a breakout year. I just think last year was a down year in his career.
Tiki can do damn near anything, hell if we didn't have a capable QB I bet he could do that too. The guy is all world when he is on top of his game.
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"Outstanding"????
Wow, I guess in your book "outstanding" = "average"
Sorry, look at the stats... he's only been average until this current season, and even this year isn't on an "outstanding" pace.
As for "last year was a dowwn year because of fumbles?" Take a look at his stats.
97, 98, 99 he was a backup/part-time so we wont count those (98 he only had 52 carries and 99 only 62).
2000 - 213 carries, 1006 yds, 4.7avg and
5 fumbles
2001 - 166 carries, 865 yds, 5.2avg and
3 fumbles
2002 - 304 carries, 1387 yds, 4.6avg and
5 fumbles
2003 - 278 carries, 1216 yds, 4.4avg and
6 fumbles
I don't see how you can say 2003 his fumble problem was especially big, I guess in % maybe, since he had less carries then 2002 but 1 more fumble. I'd say his porblem was getting better, while even though he still had 5 and 6 fumbles in 2002/2003 they were his 2 highest carries season, so his fumble per carry avg was down.
Again, I'm not saying he's a bad RB.
But, Outstanding? Great?
These are terms for LT, Lewis, Holmes, Probably Portis if he does in Wash what he did in Denver.
Tiki is on pace for a career high in carries, yds, currently has his 2nd highest avg/carry and so far only 1 fumble, so even if you avg the season out, that's only 2 at years end. He's also on pace for over 60 rec, over 800rec yds (career high), and 18td's Career high.
So again, I won't argue he is on pace for a great season, but until this year he has only been average, and to say he's going to be a great RB going foreward is a guess, a guess based off of one year. I'm making the opposite guess, that next year he comes back to earth, 1000-1200yds on the ground 300-400yds rec, 4-6 TD's and maybe even a return of 4-5 fumbles depending on how often he gets the ball. My prediction likes yours and Trips is also a guess, I'm just going on his past history that and typically in the NFL when a player has problems holding onto the ball, it's a problem that follows them there whole career. I'm also factoring in the type of coach Coughlin is, who is known to over-work/practice his players and if Tiki does start to drop the ball again wont hesitate to put him on the bench.