[Heyman]

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 They're all good points, but with JBL, The Undertaker, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Booker T, Rob Van Dam, Randy Orton and Triple H all on one brand, would someone like Batista ever get a chance.

Things would definitely be HARDER for a guy like Batista (or any other up and coming superstar). Would the glass ceiling be stronger than ever? Yes. Would less main-event stars be created? Yes. For those "rare" stars that DO 'make it' through the glass ceiling, will they be BIGGER and BRIGHTER than ever? You're damn right.

So basically (in terms of "main-eventers" being potentially created), the QUANTITY will be lower, but the QUALITY will be higher. Quality always beats quantity.

In Batista's case, if management felt that he was working hard behind the scenes, etc. and the FANS really started buying into Batista's character, then I truly believe that he'd be pushed accordingly (LOTS of smarks will disagree with me on this. LOTS of posters tend to believe that there would too much backstage politics, etc., but I remain optimistic).

In the end, a "main-event" Batista (with no roster split) would be far more 'over' and 'respected' than a "main-event" Batista (with a roster split), due to the overall depth of the show.


Speaking of "depth", do you ever wonder why RAW has been more successful in creating 'credible' stars of late than Smackdown? Depth. RAW has guys like Jericho, HBK, Benoit, Kane, and........Triple H who gives other guys credibility. All of these guys have great track records (which allows them to give the 'rub' to others).

Jericho --> Has helped Benjamin, Edge, Christian, Batista, and Orton gain credibility.

Triple H --> helped Benjamin, Orton, and Batista. Helped Benoit earn "main-event" status. Even if Benoit goes to the mid-cards now, a victory over Benoit will mean a lot to that particular wrestler (which will give him credibility amongst the fans). See the rippling effect?

HBK --> Helped Orton, Christian, (helped RVD when he was on RAW).

Kane --> Benoit, Snitsky, Batista, etc.

Benoit --> Helped Orton, Batista, and is in the process of adding to Edge.

On Smackdown.........There's too much distance between Angle/Taker/Show/Guerrero/Booker T............and everyone else. Cena is the only one that has "emerged".


Taker --> Put over Lesnar.........no longer in company. Jobbed to JBL, but completely dominated JBL. Limited credibility given to JBL.

Lesnar --> Put over Angle (already established). Jobbed to Guerrero, but win was made to look flukey. Limited credibility given to Guerrero. Put over Benoit, but Benoit defected to RAW.

Angle --> Jobbed to Guerrero, but win looked flukey. Limited credibility given to Guerrero. Got a convincing return victory over Guerrero at Summerslam. Angle put over Edge, but Edge defected to RAW. Put over Lesnar, but Lesnar was already established. Put over Big Show, but he's already established.

Big Show --> Put over John Cena. Lesnar and Angle were also "put over", but they were already established.

Booker T --> Helped add to Cena's track record. Helped Eddie Guerrero. Helped JBL, but still looked too dominant. Not as much credibility given to JBL.



See where I'm going with this?


If it was up to me, Booker T, Kurt Angle, and Big Show would the "equivalent" of Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels, and Chris Benoit on Smackdown. They would be "established" past champions (who would win most of their matches), but would be used to 'put over' mid-card talent.

-Big Show should job to Luther Reigns in the future. A heel Charlie Hass would be another guy.

-Booker T should 'put over' Orlando Jordan or Carlitto Carribbean Cool (when he gets healthy). A heel RVD would be awesome as well.

-Kurt Angle should put 'over' John Cena and Eddie Guerrero again.

-Undertaker should job CLEANLY (or almost cleanly) to JBL,

Once Guerrero and/or Cena have defeated Angle, then ONE of them should defeat JBL (who because of Taker, is ESTABLISHED.......and looks almost "unbeatable" like Triple H). Anyone who is even ASSOCIATED with JBL, would be 'over' (like HHH did for Orton, Batista, etc.).


I went on a bit of a tangent there, but I hope you see my point:


RAW is creating better stars right now, because they have the APPEARANCE of depth.........since "established main-event" guys like Jericho, Kane, and Benoit are in the mid-cards......putting others over. When HBK returned at Unforgiven, he seemed like he would have played that role as well (i.e. with Christian).

Do you think its just coincidence that a guy like Shelton Benjamin has gained quite a bit of credibility of late? How about Batista? Is it just coincidence that a guy like Eddie Guerrero isn't as "credible" looking as he should be? How about JBL?

Is it just a coincidence that the Eddie Guerrero/JBL feud from this past summer looked like a COMPLETE joke? (in terms of it being "worthy" as a main-event angle).


The point I'm trying to make, is that the more DEPTH there is, the greater the up-and-coming star looks when he cracks through the proverbial "glass ceiling."


If "shit" puts over "shit", then it's still a pile of "shit" in the end.

BTW, Heyman, I am interested to hear your insight into the current PPV scene. That could make a good discussion sometime (if you haven't already done it).

What exactly would you like me to comment on? (in regards to the PPV scene).