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Originally Posted by Evolution
I read it all, and I support your theory 98.75%. Just the new titles for unifying IC and US, European and IC, IC and World. The way they did it was fine, and to help prove this, I will use your analogy of PC folders.
When the IC folder was put into the WH folder, the folder disappeared from view, but it was still there adding to the content of the WH folder. Same when Euro was put in IC folder. And US into IC folder. And HC into Euro folder.
But because they are in the same folder, at some point down the line, we can copy one of the interior folders (eg. IC) and paste it onto "desktop", giving us a folder with another folder and history inside it, AND a carbon copy of the folder with the same lineage. This folder looks the same as the one inside the other folder, but we can add to this one without effecting the other one.
So with the IC belt that Shelton Bejamin holds now looking the same as the one Kane held when the 2 became unified (yeah, sorry it was Kane not RVD) it carries the same lineage without taking anything from the currently vacant World title.
However, we can change the appearance of our folder should we so wish, which is what happened when the US title was brought out of retirement.
Wow, that's gotta be one of my longest ever replies.
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Great post. And that's for reading my long post.
I was just going to revive this thread with comments on the US Title, but I'll get to them later.
I agree with everything you said about the titles, and it is interesting to entertain the idea that the title has been "recorded" if you will in the World Heavyweight Championship. So in a way if you win the IC Title, you win a portion of the World Heavyweight Championship.
It makes for an entertaining look on the titles, but it makes you wonder, should titles be replicated? Should you be able to leave the history in a belt, while creating a copy in its shadow? I don't mind that idea, because it takes nothing away from either title. There is no denying the history of the IC Title is great, and by bringing that back you don't take anything away from the World Heavyweight Championship. I still don't know if it is right to have a title in the World Heavywieght Championship as well as out in the open as well.
What would be interesting is if the IC Title is sitll officially property of the World Heavyweight Championship, but under command of the GM, it became a contested part of the title. I don't quite think I'm putting this right, but if the World Heavyweight Championship was sent over to SD!, the SD! GM would have control over the IC Championship as well. The title has been removed form under the WHC, but it is still officially connected to it, by that unification. This way the IC Title gets more prestege, while still remaining a part of the WHC.
Anyway, I'm not sure that made sense, but your idea certainly did, so we'll leave it at that.
Now for the WCW United States Title/WWE United States Title relationship. I believe now that these titles are not one in the same. Why? Because I'm not sure if Edge ever unified the IC and US Titles. From memory he only won both titles, then at the end of the night, whichever entity won (Alliance: United States, WWE: Intercontinental), that title would become legal, while the other would become defunct, dying with the company that spawned it. WCW US Champion Edge (from the WWE) defeated the Alliance's Test for the IC Championship (The US Championship was contested in that match as well), and when the Alliance was destroyed that night, so was the US Title.
That night the Alliance was obliterated, as was the WCW United States Championship. The title wasn't just vacated, because Vince McMahon wasn't like that. He wanted to eradicate all traces of WCW, save the ones he wanted to claim as his prizes. I don't know why, but I consider the US Title the soul of WCW. It was not the biggest, or the best, but it symbolised work ethic, and recognised talent that made the company possible. That's what mid-card titles mean to me, and if it means the same to Vince (from a storyline point of view), by destroying the US Title it meant destroying the soul of WCW, and getting back at them for the damage they tried to do. I believe the same was done to the WCW Tag Team Championship, which is why the WWE Tag Team Championship has its own history, and that's why I think the US Championship on SD!, should be a seperate title.
Although I love the old belt, and appreciate it, from a storyline point of view, destroying it would make the whole Invasion angle seem more important. Although the WWE probably considers it the same belt. It's up to them I guess.