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**Mr. Nerfect** · 01-14-2005, 08:46 PM

That's sorta what I've been thinking about this. Triple H isn't a draw, but for fans of the WWE that watch every week, he is the "God of RAW". If he went to SmackDown! he'd be a "god" there, where he can help, even if he doesn't draw.

There was a RAW a while ago where there was no Triple H (during the whole "inmates running the asylum" thing), and it was great. This proves that the WWE doesn't need Triple H to function properly.

I think one of the biggest problems with The Rock and Austin leaving the WWE is that they didn't "make" any stars in the process. The Rock has since returned and made Christian and The Hurricane look good, but if he had a real feud with Christian, and he went over, you instantly have someone "above" The Rock. If you had Stone Cold Steve Austin job to Rene Dupree, he's be a huge star within WWE circles, right now.

Triple H was never quite on The Rock and Stone Cold's level. He was never a real draw, and quite simply, heels shouldn't really draw. I still think Triple H is trying to reach the level of The Rock and Austin in the public eye. I may be off here, but I think Triple H wants to extend to being a household name before doing "the BIG job". I think this is more likely though:

In 2000 you had Stone Cold, The Rock and Triple H. Now that both The Rock and Austin are gone, Triple H is the only one left. If he goes and sacrifices that like The Rock and Austin, then they've got nothing. That's why I think Triple H has been trying to Orton, Benoit and Benjamin guys. I personally think he's ready to take that dive, and give his legacy up to Batista.

HBK is another guy in a similiar position to Triple H, but I won't touch up on that.

Anyway, once Triple H does that BIG job, there's not much left. Triple H can't job to five guys on RAW and make it look believeable. After he does lose his "BIG job virginity" to Batista, he could head over to SmackDown!, where he would instantly credible again. On SmackDown!, he just has to lose to someone, and make it even more of a loss to them than it was to Batista. Have Cena make it look easier to beat Triple H than it did for Batista. Then you have two new "Gods" in the WWE, and with Edge on RAW, you have a pretty decent setup.

But anyway, I think Triple H is in this mentality where the wants the whole world to witness his BIG job, but I think he just needs to do it in front of WRESTLING fans. My theory is that there is a ladder effect. You have stars get the torch, but when they pass it on, it makes the person they pass it to look better than them. This goes on and on, while creating a more powerful torch each time. A buzz would be created among wrestling fans, each time the torch is either passed on. Triple H has yet to pass the torch on. He has passed it around, but not on. The biggest problem with this is that passing the torch around should make stars, but Triple H being from a different generation of superstars takes away form them everytime he takes the torch back. Benoit and Orton trading the torch would be great, but as soon as it goes back to Triple H, it means nothing.

One of the best things about the roster draft is that there are two torches now. Triple H holds a "universal" one at the moment. If he did a BIG job on both brands, you have two stars benefitting instead of one, and that is what Triple H is trying to accomplish, IMO.

Anyway, I think Triple H realises now that you can't wait until you're a draw to pass the torch, you need to do it when necissary to the wrestling industry, and when that is appealing ot the fans. So what if the Timmins family in West Virginia don't see it, or if the Chase family in California don't witness it? If it happens it should be directed at wrestling fans, and by holding out on them you are denying them what they want to see.

To be honest that's why ratings have dropped. Instead of giving wrestling fans what they want, they are trying to get in the whole world until they give them. Trying to please the largest audience possible is what the WWE needs to do, but the largest audience they have are wrestling fans. When wrestling fans are happy with the product, they tend to grow in number, rather than shrink. When you are trying to aim your product at people that aren't watching, it really tends to neglect wrestling fans, and that is when they shrink in number.

If your a real estate owner, try and sell the house to the people looking at it, not their cousins. Then when people go to their house-warming, they might just like the area.

If you are a wrestling promoter sell your product to the people watching, then maybe when someone sees it, they'll like it, and join your audience. Don't change it to suit people who aren't watching, because then the people watching weekly become removed from your product.

So in short (LOL, why do I stretch everything out?), Triple H and the WWE are trying to protect themselves until they get more viewers, IMO. I may be wrong, but I don't think Triple H is selfishly clutching to that spot. Vince McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon all know Triple H isn't what wrestling fans want to see, but they are in fear that if they waste their last guy from yester-millenium, they have nothing to make a big bang when more people are watching. I think if they spent more time trying to put big bangs on their shows, instead of having little bangs teasing us to when we get the big bang, you are more likely to get people watching WWE programming weekly.

01-14-2005, 08:46 PM	#21
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 61,634	That's sorta what I've been thinking about this. Triple H isn't a draw, but for fans of the WWE that watch every week, he is the "God of RAW". If he went to SmackDown! he'd be a "god" there, where he can help, even if he doesn't draw. There was a RAW a while ago where there was no Triple H (during the whole "inmates running the asylum" thing), and it was great. This proves that the WWE doesn't need Triple H to function properly. I think one of the biggest problems with The Rock and Austin leaving the WWE is that they didn't "make" any stars in the process. The Rock has since returned and made Christian and The Hurricane look good, but if he had a real feud with Christian, and he went over, you instantly have someone "above" The Rock. If you had Stone Cold Steve Austin job to Rene Dupree, he's be a huge star within WWE circles, right now. Triple H was never quite on The Rock and Stone Cold's level. He was never a real draw, and quite simply, heels shouldn't really draw. I still think Triple H is trying to reach the level of The Rock and Austin in the public eye. I may be off here, but I think Triple H wants to extend to being a household name before doing "the BIG job". I think this is more likely though: In 2000 you had Stone Cold, The Rock and Triple H. Now that both The Rock and Austin are gone, Triple H is the only one left. If he goes and sacrifices that like The Rock and Austin, then they've got nothing. That's why I think Triple H has been trying to Orton, Benoit and Benjamin guys. I personally think he's ready to take that dive, and give his legacy up to Batista. HBK is another guy in a similiar position to Triple H, but I won't touch up on that. Anyway, once Triple H does that BIG job, there's not much left. Triple H can't job to five guys on RAW and make it look believeable. After he does lose his "BIG job virginity" to Batista, he could head over to SmackDown!, where he would instantly credible again. On SmackDown!, he just has to lose to someone, and make it even more of a loss to them than it was to Batista. Have Cena make it look easier to beat Triple H than it did for Batista. Then you have two new "Gods" in the WWE, and with Edge on RAW, you have a pretty decent setup. But anyway, I think Triple H is in this mentality where the wants the whole world to witness his BIG job, but I think he just needs to do it in front of WRESTLING fans. My theory is that there is a ladder effect. You have stars get the torch, but when they pass it on, it makes the person they pass it to look better than them. This goes on and on, while creating a more powerful torch each time. A buzz would be created among wrestling fans, each time the torch is either passed on. Triple H has yet to pass the torch on. He has passed it around, but not on. The biggest problem with this is that passing the torch around should make stars, but Triple H being from a different generation of superstars takes away form them everytime he takes the torch back. Benoit and Orton trading the torch would be great, but as soon as it goes back to Triple H, it means nothing. One of the best things about the roster draft is that there are two torches now. Triple H holds a "universal" one at the moment. If he did a BIG job on both brands, you have two stars benefitting instead of one, and that is what Triple H is trying to accomplish, IMO. Anyway, I think Triple H realises now that you can't wait until you're a draw to pass the torch, you need to do it when necissary to the wrestling industry, and when that is appealing ot the fans. So what if the Timmins family in West Virginia don't see it, or if the Chase family in California don't witness it? If it happens it should be directed at wrestling fans, and by holding out on them you are denying them what they want to see. To be honest that's why ratings have dropped. Instead of giving wrestling fans what they want, they are trying to get in the whole world until they give them. Trying to please the largest audience possible is what the WWE needs to do, but the largest audience they have are wrestling fans. When wrestling fans are happy with the product, they tend to grow in number, rather than shrink. When you are trying to aim your product at people that aren't watching, it really tends to neglect wrestling fans, and that is when they shrink in number. If your a real estate owner, try and sell the house to the people looking at it, not their cousins. Then when people go to their house-warming, they might just like the area. If you are a wrestling promoter sell your product to the people watching, then maybe when someone sees it, they'll like it, and join your audience. Don't change it to suit people who aren't watching, because then the people watching weekly become removed from your product. So in short (LOL, why do I stretch everything out?), Triple H and the WWE are trying to protect themselves until they get more viewers, IMO. I may be wrong, but I don't think Triple H is selfishly clutching to that spot. Vince McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon all know Triple H isn't what wrestling fans want to see, but they are in fear that if they waste their last guy from yester-millenium, they have nothing to make a big bang when more people are watching. I think if they spent more time trying to put big bangs on their shows, instead of having little bangs teasing us to when we get the big bang, you are more likely to get people watching WWE programming weekly.