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**The CyNick** · 01-16-2004, 10:22 PM

Couple of things:

HHH VS ROCK

HHH vs Rock is not a big deal. You look at last years Mania and they had Austin/Rock for nostalgia, but it didn't draw a huge buyrate. Now granted it wasn't the most hyped match on the show, but its clear people weren't clamouring to see another match between the two (even though it ended up being a really strong match). That same line of thinking would appy to HHH/Rock in my opinion. Even though the match has never happened one on one at Mania (although it was the main focal point of the match at Mania 2000, and it boiled down to the two of them, so essentially they've already had their one on one match at Mania), fans have seen it so many times that I dont think anyone will care enough to order the show based on it.

Beisdes, HHH needs to be put in a match to make a new star, not a throw away match against a part time wrestler who he has faced a million times on PPV.

As for Rock and Foley, I think they could be in singles matches, but I think putting them in one match together will end up serving the overall show better. By having them in one match you give someone else a spot on the card, which is a good thing. Also, its been ages since we've seen Rock and Foley as a team, so its possible you could get some people coming back who remember their antics as a team. And unlike HHH vs Rock, we haven't seen a thusand Rock n Sock matches on PPV.

Another benefit is that you can prolong the Foley-Orton fued, and still give Rock and Foley a win at Mania. I mentioned this in another thread, but the way I see it Foey and Rock could win this match (say Rock pins Batista), and it really wouldn't hurt Orton's push. Then at Backlash you have Orton beat Foley in a one-on-one match to really establish Orton. That way you have the feel good story of Foley's successful return to Mania, but Orton still winds up with the big rub a month later. Not that Orton beating Foley one on one at Mania is a bad idea, its just that I think doing the tag deal kills two or three birds with one stone.

CENA vs AUSTIN

This is a bad idea plain and simple. Someone mentioned Cena getting booed, that is true, and totally counter productive to what they should be doing with Cena. You have to also consider that Austin is in rough shape. Its sounding more and more like he will work at Mania, but I dont think he can do a serious match without risking permanent injury. Hence the reason we'll likely get Austin vs McMahon. And even though its a tired fued like HHH vs Rock we haven't seen it a million times on PPV, so it might draw some interest. Plus with Austin's condition, I dont think there are too many other guys he could work with. At least with McMahon they can make it NO DQ, Vince can bleed, Austin can punch his way through the match and send the fans away with a Stunner for old times sake. It would be a perfect way to cap off the Attitude era with Vince losing to SCSA.

As for Cena, I'm not realy sure who he should face. Ideally Matt would be still on SD, and they could have a fued. Matt has a song on John's new CD, so they have a story that could be told there, and I think Ive heard Matt is a decent freestyler so it could be an entertaining fued. But he's on RAW, so that doesn't seem likely. Another posibility could be Rhyno, although he's already jobbed to Cena on TV. Big Show in a rematch (Im assuming Cena will get the US title at NWO) is possible. I've also thought perhaps they go with Morgan as a Heyman henchman who tries to take out Cena. Or, since it looks like Billy Gunn is getting a new heel persona, maybe we get Gunn vs Cena. I know thats not the bext fued for Cena, but he's kinda being left out in the cold the way things are shaping up. Unless they have some special deal planned for him like they had last year, or maybe we'll get Savage/Cena that everyone wants to see.

DUDLEY BOYZ

I think the Dudleys are maybe the most tired act going in the WWE. However, they are great on house shows for getting the crowd going, and as we've seen in the past neither are capable of being successfull singles wrestlers. I mean do we have to relive Rev D-Von? I know I dont want to. Some teams are just meant to be tag teams for their whole career. Now with that said, I wouldn't mind seeing them try a run as a serious bad ass heel team like they were in ECW. Dont know if it would work, but it might be a shot in the arm for their careers.

01-16-2004, 10:22 PM	#10
The CyNick Make the IWC Great Again Posts: 8,922	Couple of things: HHH VS ROCK HHH vs Rock is not a big deal. You look at last years Mania and they had Austin/Rock for nostalgia, but it didn't draw a huge buyrate. Now granted it wasn't the most hyped match on the show, but its clear people weren't clamouring to see another match between the two (even though it ended up being a really strong match). That same line of thinking would appy to HHH/Rock in my opinion. Even though the match has never happened one on one at Mania (although it was the main focal point of the match at Mania 2000, and it boiled down to the two of them, so essentially they've already had their one on one match at Mania), fans have seen it so many times that I dont think anyone will care enough to order the show based on it. Beisdes, HHH needs to be put in a match to make a new star, not a throw away match against a part time wrestler who he has faced a million times on PPV. As for Rock and Foley, I think they could be in singles matches, but I think putting them in one match together will end up serving the overall show better. By having them in one match you give someone else a spot on the card, which is a good thing. Also, its been ages since we've seen Rock and Foley as a team, so its possible you could get some people coming back who remember their antics as a team. And unlike HHH vs Rock, we haven't seen a thusand Rock n Sock matches on PPV. Another benefit is that you can prolong the Foley-Orton fued, and still give Rock and Foley a win at Mania. I mentioned this in another thread, but the way I see it Foey and Rock could win this match (say Rock pins Batista), and it really wouldn't hurt Orton's push. Then at Backlash you have Orton beat Foley in a one-on-one match to really establish Orton. That way you have the feel good story of Foley's successful return to Mania, but Orton still winds up with the big rub a month later. Not that Orton beating Foley one on one at Mania is a bad idea, its just that I think doing the tag deal kills two or three birds with one stone. CENA vs AUSTIN This is a bad idea plain and simple. Someone mentioned Cena getting booed, that is true, and totally counter productive to what they should be doing with Cena. You have to also consider that Austin is in rough shape. Its sounding more and more like he will work at Mania, but I dont think he can do a serious match without risking permanent injury. Hence the reason we'll likely get Austin vs McMahon. And even though its a tired fued like HHH vs Rock we haven't seen it a million times on PPV, so it might draw some interest. Plus with Austin's condition, I dont think there are too many other guys he could work with. At least with McMahon they can make it NO DQ, Vince can bleed, Austin can punch his way through the match and send the fans away with a Stunner for old times sake. It would be a perfect way to cap off the Attitude era with Vince losing to SCSA. As for Cena, I'm not realy sure who he should face. Ideally Matt would be still on SD, and they could have a fued. Matt has a song on John's new CD, so they have a story that could be told there, and I think Ive heard Matt is a decent freestyler so it could be an entertaining fued. But he's on RAW, so that doesn't seem likely. Another posibility could be Rhyno, although he's already jobbed to Cena on TV. Big Show in a rematch (Im assuming Cena will get the US title at NWO) is possible. I've also thought perhaps they go with Morgan as a Heyman henchman who tries to take out Cena. Or, since it looks like Billy Gunn is getting a new heel persona, maybe we get Gunn vs Cena. I know thats not the bext fued for Cena, but he's kinda being left out in the cold the way things are shaping up. Unless they have some special deal planned for him like they had last year, or maybe we'll get Savage/Cena that everyone wants to see. DUDLEY BOYZ I think the Dudleys are maybe the most tired act going in the WWE. However, they are great on house shows for getting the crowd going, and as we've seen in the past neither are capable of being successfull singles wrestlers. I mean do we have to relive Rev D-Von? I know I dont want to. Some teams are just meant to be tag teams for their whole career. Now with that said, I wouldn't mind seeing them try a run as a serious bad ass heel team like they were in ECW. Dont know if it would work, but it might be a shot in the arm for their careers.