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Old 03-10-2005, 11:34 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by Mr Sunday Night
A simple comparison will show the obvious answer to this question:

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania XIX

Jericho needed the win to elevate him to main event heel status. Had Booker T beaten Triple H (another match that should've gone the other way... but that's another topic), a heel Jericho with a fresh win over HBK would've been the perfect opponent for him.

Instead, the over the hill and played out Shawn Michaels picked up the win, Jericho suckered him into a handshake and low blowed him (admittedly a cool spot, but not good enough), and that was that.


Now, while comparing Randy Orton to Chris Jericho should be a mortal sin punishable by execution, the Orton vs. Taker set up is very much akin to the Jericho vs. HBK set up. One man is an established superstar with tons of huge victories in his career, the other is an upper mid-card wrestler who has been in the World Title scene before but never really made an impact thanks to politics.

Jericho's loss at WM XIX led him nowhere, and although he didn't lose any credibility from it, he didn't gain any either. A loss for Orton would be the same thing. What's he got to brag about after WrestleMania if he loses to Taker cleanly? He went toe-to-toe with the Dead man? Big fucking deal. So have lots of other people - it doesn't mean shit.

A loss for Orton would be detrimental to his career at this point. Hopefully the WWE realizes this and books him to win, then turn heel the same night, or at least the following night on RAW.

But again, this IS the WWE we're talking about.
But, Jericho and Orton are in two different positions.

Orton is a babyface going into the match, he needs more of a reason to turn heel other than "I'm going to end Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak. Rawr." A loss to Taker at Mania would give him even more reason to snap and turn heel. Yes, a win for Orton at Mania would be good, but with the crap build up they have given for this match and the fact that they tried to push a babyface Orton down our throats for 6+ months should tell us that they need to give a better storyline for an Orton turn.

LC, you were bitching last week how after months of being made to look unstoppable, Cena lost the U.S. title to Orlando Jordan. So, then why is it not okay for Taker to pin Orton at Wrestlemania, ending a 13 year long streak that has been pushed for years with little buildup? I think the scenario I gave would have more long term impact than Orton beating Taker in a somewhat insignificant match. If a babyface Orton were to be pinned by The Undertaker at Wrestlemania, *THEN* Orton would have a reason snap and beat the holy hell out of Taker after the match, thus turning him heel.
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