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**Mr. Nerfect** · 03-12-2005, 07:46 PM

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I don't mind Kane in the match. He adds a presence of dominance, and he could take some good bumps. Hassan in the match would be nice, but I can see him winning the WWE United States Championship at WrestleMania (don't ask me why).

I have a feeling this match will just be a finisher of the top rope/ladder fest. The winner can be ANYONE in this match, which is why I am so excited about it.

I'm going to take a look at the competitors and discuss why I think they will/won't win. Just for arguement's sake, I'll assume the IC Championship is on the line in this match.

Chris Jericho

Jericho is the guy behind this match, so it makes sense that he has some kind of advantage. If Jericho wins, he'll probably be used as fodder for the winner of the main event at Backlash.

I don't mind the idea of the winner running out and rolling-up the World Heavyweight Champion on an edition of RAW and taking the title when we least expect it. Why not even do it at a house show to try and boost interest in WWELive! events? The only three guys doing this are Jericho, Christian & Edge.

Jericho doesn't need to win a ladder match to get a title shot, though. He can easily come out tomrrow night and say he wants a match and he'd be likely to gt it storyline-wise. It would be a waste to give him this win.

If Jericho won this match, Jericho would shatter his own record, and become the only eight-time IC Champion in WWE history. Does this really need to happen? He would shatter two of his records (He'd also become the only man to win the IC Championship three-times in a Ladder Match). This would make history, but I don't think they need to do this. The IC Championship has been on Y2J enough, and the title shot could go to someone that needs help getting a footing in the main event scene (*cough*Christian*cough*).

Chris Benoit

2004 was "Year of the Wolverine" for Benoit. I can very easily see 2005 being the same.

If Benoit beats Triple H this week on RAW, he has a win over the World Heavyweight Champion, which automatically rises him up the ladder of contenders, no pun intended. He's been booked quite strongly recently, with wins over Muhammad Hassan and Shelton Benjamin. He's not quite there, though, so a win in the MITBLM could really do it for Benoit. If they're just using the winner for fodder at Backlash, I wouldn't agree with this method, though.

I know so many people would be against this, but I wouldn't mind seeing Randy Orton cost Batista the match at WrestleMania. This allows them to run Batista vs. Randy Orton with Ric Flair as the Special Guest Referee at Backlash, and it leaves Triple H without an opponent. Benoit would make a decent challenger, and a good candidate to take the belt from Triple H.

A new lead heel is needed on RAW, IMO, and Randy Orton may be the person to fill that role. He could really get over if he took the title from Benoit for a second time. An Orton>Benoit>Triple H effect would be created, and you ca then build-up Randy Orton vs. Batista for Vengeance, and have Orton scrape by with the title. Then at Summerslam we have a Hell in a Cell where Batista finally takes the title.

I've gone off track a bit, but Benoit winning wouldn't be the best for the WWE, but it certainly wouldn't be the worst. A win for the Wolverine would probably give him a boost into the main focus again, but it may not exactly help the product.

So between Jericho and Benoit, who would I rather see win it? I'm leaning towards Jericho. Y2J could do everything Benoit could do with the win storyline-wise, the only difference is that Jericho would break more records with a win (assuming the IC Title is on the line).

Edge

Edge is a guy that really needs a big win to get somewhere. Him winning here seems perfect, except I can't really see him waiting with a title shot, unless they run a "I'm waiting until there is no chance I will be screwed" angle.

Edge running out and Spearing Batista at an odd time and pinning him for three would be an interesting way to see Edge win his first World Heavyweight Championship.

With all the personal stuff going on the in lockerroom involving Edge, this may not be the time to put him over your entire upper-midcard. I truly believe that Edge's career shouldn't be affected by his private life, but I'm not sure if putting Edge over in a match that can pretty much go either way is a good idea.

Edge won't lose too much heat if he loses, and other guys can gain just as much as Edge from a win here (Kane, Christian & Benjamin). I'd avoid giving the win to Edge here if I could.

Kane

The Big Red Machine is a nickname that doesn't really apply to Kane anymore. He's maskless, shirtless and characterless at the present time. They had the perfect chance to revive his character at the beginnig of the year, but they decided to have him keep on playing his role of the protective father out to get Gene Snitsky.

The Lita/Kane marriage is something we'd all be happy to forget, and the best way to do that is to have Kane win this match, IMO. Kane could use this win as a chance to revive his character, and he could get new attire, a mask, etc. and really try and push himself to becomming the monster he once was, and maybe, just maybe, we will see Kane win the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania 22.

Just before they went through with the marriage angle, they seemed to be grooming Kane for a makeover of sorts. I'm BEGGING the WWE to go back to this idea and play it through. Kane needs to be salvaged, and this ladder match could be the thing to do it.

If Kane wins this match it makes him undefeated in ladder matches, and a three-time IC Champion (assuming the belt is one the line). I can see nothing wrong with either accomplishment at this stage. Out of Jericho, Benoit, Edge and Kane, The Big Red Machine takes the lead in my picks.

Christian

Not much to say about Christian, other than he really needs the win here more than anyone. Kane can get a makeover when Tomko destroys him with a ladder or something, but Christian can't launch himself into the main event without a MAJOR win. This is what I'd call a MAJOR win. Christian would become a four-time IC Champion, a lead heel and could use the cheap title win scenario I've mentioned before, and could potentially headline the RAW side of WrestleMania 22 if they book him right.

Christian takes the lead in my picks, narrowly scraping ahead of Kane.

Shelton Benjamin

Shelton Benjamin is another guy that would benefit a lot from a win in this match. He's my pick to headline RAW's side of WrestleMania 22, and he can do that with a win here, as well as becomming perhaps the greatest IC Champion of all-time.

I can see Benjamin as the only guy that can have a feud built heading out of this match. He just seems like a guy that chases the winner of the match if it isn't himt hat takes that honour.

Benjamin and Christian are pretty much neck-and-neck in my opinion, but I'd give the edge to Christian, just because most people already see Benjamin as a future major player anyway. There's also the fact I can see Benjamin chasing Christian after WrestleMania (assuming Captain Charisma wins), but I cannot see it happening as effectively the other away around.

Muhammad Hassan

I can just see this guy running out when everyone is down and taking the briefcase and IC Championship down from the ladder and walking off.

Or better yet, he switches the breifcases and has one filled with a contract to kiss his ass or something. Hassan has the open contract in his possession and signs it, without specifying a date.

This way the match is officially ruled No Contest, and Shelton Benjamin remains IC Champion, and Hassan gets a title shot whenever. You have Benjamin climb the ladder and open it to find the wrong contents and you have an instant feud for the IC Title heading into the RAW Exclusive period coming up, with Backlash, Bad Blood and Vengance on the way. A blowoff match at Summerslam would be interesting.

Or you could just have Hassan put a bomb in the briefcase.

Sorry that was horrible.

Anyway, my favourite scenario is Christian wins the match, but does so screwing Shelton when the briefcase is pulled up out of reach when Benjamin climbs the ladder.

03-12-2005, 07:46 PM	#26
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 61,634	Whoops, I forgot there was another ropic on this. Oh well, we'll keep things up here, anyway. I don't mind Kane in the match. He adds a presence of dominance, and he could take some good bumps. Hassan in the match would be nice, but I can see him winning the WWE United States Championship at WrestleMania (don't ask me why). I have a feeling this match will just be a finisher of the top rope/ladder fest. The winner can be ANYONE in this match, which is why I am so excited about it. I'm going to take a look at the competitors and discuss why I think they will/won't win. Just for arguement's sake, I'll assume the IC Championship is on the line in this match. Chris Jericho Jericho is the guy behind this match, so it makes sense that he has some kind of advantage. If Jericho wins, he'll probably be used as fodder for the winner of the main event at Backlash. I don't mind the idea of the winner running out and rolling-up the World Heavyweight Champion on an edition of RAW and taking the title when we least expect it. Why not even do it at a house show to try and boost interest in WWELive! events? The only three guys doing this are Jericho, Christian & Edge. Jericho doesn't need to win a ladder match to get a title shot, though. He can easily come out tomrrow night and say he wants a match and he'd be likely to gt it storyline-wise. It would be a waste to give him this win. If Jericho won this match, Jericho would shatter his own record, and become the only eight-time IC Champion in WWE history. Does this really need to happen? He would shatter two of his records (He'd also become the only man to win the IC Championship three-times in a Ladder Match). This would make history, but I don't think they need to do this. The IC Championship has been on Y2J enough, and the title shot could go to someone that needs help getting a footing in the main event scene (coughChristiancough). Chris Benoit 2004 was "Year of the Wolverine" for Benoit. I can very easily see 2005 being the same. If Benoit beats Triple H this week on RAW, he has a win over the World Heavyweight Champion, which automatically rises him up the ladder of contenders, no pun intended. He's been booked quite strongly recently, with wins over Muhammad Hassan and Shelton Benjamin. He's not quite there, though, so a win in the MITBLM could really do it for Benoit. If they're just using the winner for fodder at Backlash, I wouldn't agree with this method, though. I know so many people would be against this, but I wouldn't mind seeing Randy Orton cost Batista the match at WrestleMania. This allows them to run Batista vs. Randy Orton with Ric Flair as the Special Guest Referee at Backlash, and it leaves Triple H without an opponent. Benoit would make a decent challenger, and a good candidate to take the belt from Triple H. A new lead heel is needed on RAW, IMO, and Randy Orton may be the person to fill that role. He could really get over if he took the title from Benoit for a second time. An Orton>Benoit>Triple H effect would be created, and you ca then build-up Randy Orton vs. Batista for Vengeance, and have Orton scrape by with the title. Then at Summerslam we have a Hell in a Cell where Batista finally takes the title. I've gone off track a bit, but Benoit winning wouldn't be the best for the WWE, but it certainly wouldn't be the worst. A win for the Wolverine would probably give him a boost into the main focus again, but it may not exactly help the product. So between Jericho and Benoit, who would I rather see win it? I'm leaning towards Jericho. Y2J could do everything Benoit could do with the win storyline-wise, the only difference is that Jericho would break more records with a win (assuming the IC Title is on the line). Edge Edge is a guy that really needs a big win to get somewhere. Him winning here seems perfect, except I can't really see him waiting with a title shot, unless they run a "I'm waiting until there is no chance I will be screwed" angle. Edge running out and Spearing Batista at an odd time and pinning him for three would be an interesting way to see Edge win his first World Heavyweight Championship. With all the personal stuff going on the in lockerroom involving Edge, this may not be the time to put him over your entire upper-midcard. I truly believe that Edge's career shouldn't be affected by his private life, but I'm not sure if putting Edge over in a match that can pretty much go either way is a good idea. Edge won't lose too much heat if he loses, and other guys can gain just as much as Edge from a win here (Kane, Christian & Benjamin). I'd avoid giving the win to Edge here if I could. Kane The Big Red Machine is a nickname that doesn't really apply to Kane anymore. He's maskless, shirtless and characterless at the present time. They had the perfect chance to revive his character at the beginnig of the year, but they decided to have him keep on playing his role of the protective father out to get Gene Snitsky. The Lita/Kane marriage is something we'd all be happy to forget, and the best way to do that is to have Kane win this match, IMO. Kane could use this win as a chance to revive his character, and he could get new attire, a mask, etc. and really try and push himself to becomming the monster he once was, and maybe, just maybe, we will see Kane win the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania 22. Just before they went through with the marriage angle, they seemed to be grooming Kane for a makeover of sorts. I'm BEGGING the WWE to go back to this idea and play it through. Kane needs to be salvaged, and this ladder match could be the thing to do it. If Kane wins this match it makes him undefeated in ladder matches, and a three-time IC Champion (assuming the belt is one the line). I can see nothing wrong with either accomplishment at this stage. Out of Jericho, Benoit, Edge and Kane, The Big Red Machine takes the lead in my picks. Christian Not much to say about Christian, other than he really needs the win here more than anyone. Kane can get a makeover when Tomko destroys him with a ladder or something, but Christian can't launch himself into the main event without a MAJOR win. This is what I'd call a MAJOR win. Christian would become a four-time IC Champion, a lead heel and could use the cheap title win scenario I've mentioned before, and could potentially headline the RAW side of WrestleMania 22 if they book him right. Christian takes the lead in my picks, narrowly scraping ahead of Kane. Shelton Benjamin Shelton Benjamin is another guy that would benefit a lot from a win in this match. He's my pick to headline RAW's side of WrestleMania 22, and he can do that with a win here, as well as becomming perhaps the greatest IC Champion of all-time. I can see Benjamin as the only guy that can have a feud built heading out of this match. He just seems like a guy that chases the winner of the match if it isn't himt hat takes that honour. Benjamin and Christian are pretty much neck-and-neck in my opinion, but I'd give the edge to Christian, just because most people already see Benjamin as a future major player anyway. There's also the fact I can see Benjamin chasing Christian after WrestleMania (assuming Captain Charisma wins), but I cannot see it happening as effectively the other away around. Muhammad Hassan I can just see this guy running out when everyone is down and taking the briefcase and IC Championship down from the ladder and walking off. Or better yet, he switches the breifcases and has one filled with a contract to kiss his ass or something. Hassan has the open contract in his possession and signs it, without specifying a date. This way the match is officially ruled No Contest, and Shelton Benjamin remains IC Champion, and Hassan gets a title shot whenever. You have Benjamin climb the ladder and open it to find the wrong contents and you have an instant feud for the IC Title heading into the RAW Exclusive period coming up, with Backlash, Bad Blood and Vengance on the way. A blowoff match at Summerslam would be interesting. Or you could just have Hassan put a bomb in the briefcase. Sorry that was horrible. Anyway, my favourite scenario is Christian wins the match, but does so screwing Shelton when the briefcase is pulled up out of reach when Benjamin climbs the ladder.