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Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
It was disgraceful and no football fan in their right mind would defend it.
However, I would say that it is typical of the US media to make something which would best be described as "non-american" look like the absolute worst thing in the world. I'd say bombing the hell out of defenceless countries is a lot worse than a minority of idiots throwing flares onto the pitch.
Football in 2005 sees nothing like the trouble it did in the 80s, and grounds in the UK virtually never see problems. Unfortunatly, the hardcore fans in Italy, Spain, Greece and Turkey do cause some problems, but it is not as big a problem as the US media is probably making it out to be.
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Agree with the whole thing.
Chelsea no longer have any firms, nor do any clubs. Back in part of the seventies and eighties if you went to an away game, the second you got off the train till the second you got in the ground you were fighting to get to see the match. There were famous fights like the United Vs Cardiff one and mor elikely others that I haven't read about.
Us Vs Tottenham used to be a right rowdy encounter, but now there is so many policemen nothing will happen.
When I went to the Nou Camp in February I noticed the lack of security and security camera's (they have no roof to attach them to) and as a result there was a fight in which a Chelsea fan in the Barca end got battered when we scored and it wasn't broken up.
When I went there five years ago they had loo rools in between every seat of the home teams seats, to encourage them to throw it onto the pitch, I know they are harmless but still. When Figo made his return they had whistles in amongst every seat to blow everytime he got the ball, and if I recall correct he got struck by a missile.
When England played Italy in Rome in the World Cup 98 qualifiers the Italian police were apparently taking coins, wallets, keys, phones, cameras litereally everything out of their pockets, ridicolous. They turn a blind eye to the home team though. Police are scared to mix with the hardcore Italian fans so they just let them be through fear of being hurt. Apparently at Udinese they are going to experiment with having stewards and security cameras like we have in England, if successful it will still take time to catch on in ther grounds.