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Regarding the first movie, I remember reading stupid comic book mags like "Wizard" and "Hero" back in the day proclaiming that the 1994 FF movie would be the one to finally end Marvel's big screen losing streak (which started with the aborted Spider-Man movie, continued with Howard the Duck, and ended with Punisher).
Now it's the poster child for the bad old days of Marvel movies, mainly because it was rumored to be so bad that it wasn't even released direct-to-video. Weird how things end up.
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