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That's why I said put Adam Dunn in his spot. If Adam Dunn or a similar power hitter had Johnny Damon, Edgar Renteria, and David Oritz in front of him he'd have a few more RBI's, no? RBI numbers are overblown because of the team, Pujols is probably gonna have more RBI's than Derrek Lee by the end of the season, but that's because the Cubs suck, Pujols almost always has someone on base when he hits.
It doesn't matter what rank Ichiro is among leadoff hitters because that's not how the team is selected, it's by defensive positions. Let's look at how they compare on the 5 tools used to determine a player's overall abilities.
Hitting for avg: Ichiro
35 points higher BA no contest.
Hitting for power: Manny
23 (I think) homers to 6, no contest
Arm: Ichiro
Sure Manny has more assists but that is because nobody even thinks about running on Ichiro. Manny has an above average arm and Ichiro has one of the top 3 or 4 arms in baseball. Ask Terrence Long.
Glove: Ichiro
Manny is a joke with the glove and Ichiro has played 4 years in America and has won 4 gold gloves.
Speed: Ichiro
Ichiro has stolen more bases this season than Manny has in the last 8 years
Ichiro > Manny
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