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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I'd like to know your sources.
First off, I'm not whining. I'm mocking you, and there's a huge difference.
Second off, I've never claimed that there was a specific percentage of internet fans. I claimed you were running off the same outdated bullshit everyone else was running off of. Feel free to prove me wrong, because I'd love to know some hard numbers that don't come from a time when WCW was still running. Or for you to say something that wasn't safe and generic for once.
Basically, I care less about being right and more about your reliable factual information. I'm calling your bluff, Nick. If you know then give us a hard answer. If not, sit down, shut the fuck up, and be like every other mark on the net.
Third, I love how you simultaneously claim that I need to go to shows, and that I'm one of the people chanting USA. Not only can't you figure out that they're not chanting for a country (But rather an ideal), you can't figure out that both claims cannot be simultaneously true.
Fourth, so the small number of chants for HArdy are proof that the net fanbase is small? Well then, the HUGE pops for Hogan prove he's a draw. Come on Nick, you're going against your own logic for convenience. And using hearsay too, a bad way to make any argument.
Fifth: You were the ones who said fans were idiots. I must say, you're acting like a pretty big fan right now.  |
I was saying fans in the context of the promo Hassan cut at the SD tapings and the people who were chanting USA, those people are morons. For some reason you couldn't figure that out without having it spelled out to you.
The fact that the internet community is small can be proven in several ways. Read the WWE financials from time to time, they talk about Internet traffic for various things, and it rarely anything more than a couple hundred thousand. Their total fanbase going by their TV audience (its bigger because of non-US fans who do count in TV numbers but could be on wwe.com) is about 5 million. So, say there are 500,000 fans on wwe.com and 5 million total fans, Math 101 says that only 10%. And again, thats a number that skewed higher than it really is, as I mentioned.
Also, sites like this one and others have a very small number of users. Ive been to several sites that are considered popular and the majority of them have fewer viewers than this one does.
Listen to Internet/Radio shows about wrestling, every week you get the same people calling in, and I know from a reliable source that the numbers are not huge for any of those shows. Again, showing the Internet audience isn't all that big.
Finally, as I said, go to events and check out the number of people who will chant or yell stuff that that has to do with insider things. When I see a few hundred people out of 4 or 5 thousand, I can tell you its a small percentage. Even here in Toronto, which has a larger than average smark fanbase (which is why you get all the pro heel chants and whatnot) its still maybe at most 20% of the crowd that is into the chants, the rest of the crowd seem connfused by the whole thing.
I never once mentioend WCW, so I dont get where you're getting that from, but hey go ahead make up stuff if it helps you.
I can prove Hogan is not a draw by buyrates and attendance figures, I will also be able to prove that Hardy cant draw by the insignificant amount of interest this angle draws,a nd the fact that he wont drive numbers up. Again, if I'm wrong about that, I'll be the first to admit it.
The Hogan thing actually helps prove my point. Hogan gets 15 minute ovations from virtually the entire crowd, and yet that doesn't result in him doing big business. Its only logical that when a much smaller percentage of the audience is popping for something it will mean even less for business.
Pops really dont mean much, but all I was saying was that the people cheering for Hardy are a very small percentage of the total audience in the arenas, which is parallel to the fact that the Internet community (those who "get" this angle and those who were doing the chanting) is a very small percentage of the total WWE audince. For some reason I thought that would be an easy concept to grasp, but apparently its not.
KK, I appreciate the effort with you trying to "call my bluff" or whatever, you've got a good future kid, but you're fighting a losing battle. Stick to posting opinions, and leave me out of it.