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**What Would Kevin Do?** · 03-17-2012, 01:53 PM

Destor pretty much covered it. But the hard hitting style where guys basically "learn" from previous matches, which results in reversal/counter strings to get more intricate (which is cool), but also results in guys taking multiple big moves/finishers to go down, and also stronger versions of finishers.

I mean, in Dragon Gate I've seen guys kick out of Cima's Schwien off the top rope. I mean, come on.

And the problem now is, or at least recently, is that certain places in the American indy scene have bastardized it rally bad, so it's less about "learning" and building a story over time, and more about "let's hit each other really hard and have a ton of head dropping moves and finishes in a match that doesn't really need it."

So the reason I think it's bad in the long run is that instead of using psychology, it's disregarding psychology for fancy spots.

03-17-2012, 01:53 PM	#43
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	Destor pretty much covered it. But the hard hitting style where guys basically "learn" from previous matches, which results in reversal/counter strings to get more intricate (which is cool), but also results in guys taking multiple big moves/finishers to go down, and also stronger versions of finishers. I mean, in Dragon Gate I've seen guys kick out of Cima's Schwien off the top rope. I mean, come on. And the problem now is, or at least recently, is that certain places in the American indy scene have bastardized it rally bad, so it's less about "learning" and building a story over time, and more about "let's hit each other really hard and have a ton of head dropping moves and finishes in a match that doesn't really need it." So the reason I think it's bad in the long run is that instead of using psychology, it's disregarding psychology for fancy spots.