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Old 08-26-2019, 06:10 PM   #51783
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RE: ROH

On top of the fact that they put most of their eggs in the The Elite basket and then everyone but Marty left, they just have a major issue with talent. They hadn't been a destination company for hot young talent for years, and by the last couple years there's nothing they offer that another company doesn't do better. For a while one of the things propping them up was semi-regular appearances from top-tier NJPW talent, so you could go to their TV tapings and have good odds of seeing multiple matches featuring Okada, Tanahashi, and Naito, but now NJPW just runs their own shows in the US. They had a wave of pretty interesting signings at the end of last year but I don't get the impression that any of them except for Brody King and PCO have really been major focuses.

But honestly I think the biggest killer was that Madison Square Garden show. That was their chance to reignite fan interest and they failed at nearly every turn, and failed in a way that I think basically shut the door on what their reputation used to be and instead screamed of the type of desperation that people used to drag TNA for all the time. "You know what NJPW fans are going to love? 30 minutes of Bully Ray! Hey, Tenille Dashwood's on the way out, but guess who's replacing her? 2008's hottest women's heel act still doing that act to diminishing returns, that's who! Enjoy that tag match? Cool, prepare to completely forget about how good that match was because here's a worked shoot angle with fucking Enzo and Cass for some reason! And stay tuned for our main event featuring a lifer whose act has gotten stale, a guy who we can't give the belt to because he's counting the days until he can bail and join his friends in AEW, and Matt Taven of all people!" The story about Bully Ray pulling that fan aside during a Pacific Northwest tour and chiding him for heckling Velvet Sky didn't help but pretty much every wrestling company has embarrassing stories like that.

They just... don't have anything beyond access to NJPW and CMLL guys. There's no buzz about anything going on there.
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