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I think all 4 of us have the hidden sub jobs so I'll skip the spoiler warnings and just say I encluded them.

Going to rank the classes:

12.

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Warrior - I think putting this at the bottom will catch heat but I stand by it. The extra 50 attack passive and the 99,999 passive are the only reasons to use this class unless you have a spear based enemy. Its just not that great. Apoc has better single target AoE and single target damage excluding the divine skill which is very good for damage until you get the optional classes but i think this job just doesnt add any utility for a small damage increase. Olberic is great but only when you marry this kit with other (better) kits.

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Dancer - This class is good for farming. That is about it. Sp recovery passive is nice and dark damage is good for about 60 hours or so but by in large this class is best only put on primrose unless you have need of her divine skill. Ophilia as dancer can have some very useful applications against elemental bosses using Dancer divine plus reflect. Far too niche though.

10.

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Theif- A lot of things hold this class back. Single target skills galore is a big one. All of the passive suck. Bottom of the bin in that regard. It it werent for its ability to funnel SP into the DPS classes it would be the last on the list but until you get Runelord this is a pretty vital class.

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Hunter - The class is good for multi bows and a nice AoE damage from Rain of Arrows but it deserves the spot due to Patience. A must have skill on every party member but especially true for your healers. All of its passive are very solid but it does get out classed by other classes.

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Scholar - Until late game this class is a must and while it is def left in the dust once you get get sorcerer the fact that its a staple for 60 hours or so of the game gets it a nod but late game though this kit is useless unless you're conserving SP. Since there is basically a better version of this class I cant put it any higher than this.

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Runelord - this set is only this high for one reason: it pairs with merchant in godly ways. the passives are mostly useless and the elemental buff aspects arent that great either. but buffs becoming AoEs is a spammable Dancer divine skill and that is broken in Tressa's hands. Donate BP, Rest and Sidestep are VERY powerful at this point. It also makes Apoc a viable healer but you will have to waste a round on occasion to make it happen.

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Starseerer - this kit sucks. Some ok moves and some I would never use. Pairs great with dancer's divine skill though. It has it's spot for the passives. BP eater is a must for all DPS and the double BP at the start of the battle paired with it makes farming and grinding a one turn ordeal. And having the ability to test for the 3 rare elemental types in one move is handy too.

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Apothecary - As a healer this class is basically trash. Though paired with runelord does make it better and the debuff clear is unique and really good as an AoE. it has great damage skills from the axe skills but none of those are why its in the top 5. The divine skill is the single best divine skill from the basic classes (and if it werent for Warmaster it would be the absolute best period.) Items as AoE is HUGE. Especially for the tough bosses.

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Merchant - Donate BP. Donate BP. DONATE BP. If this werent enough to crack the top 5 (it is) she also has the very high utility of hired help plus some very good passive. SP saver and ...endure? The survive KO passive. Top class set. Plus MONIES.

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Sorcerer - If you need nukes we got nukes. Pretty broken class. Triple hit all elementals is killer and lowering elemental def makes it even better. Passive leave a lot to be desired but the kit makes up for it in big ways.

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Warmaster - lolthisissoopwtfweretheythinkingifuckingloveitomg for real...what a fucking DPS class. Great options for multi hit breaking massive damage even without the divine skill and quality passives even if theyre a bit situational. You can deal 60k or so pretty easy per divine skill. It has no equal in DPS.

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Cleric - No job can half do what this class does. AoE heals. AoE raise. Reflect. These are major skills that every party needs. This job is a must at all times at any part of the game. Saving Grace is probably the best passive in the game as well. Great divine skill too. This is THE must have class no matter what party you build.

08-15-2018, 10:26 AM	#436
Destor I am the cheese Posts: 51,037	I think all 4 of us have the hidden sub jobs so I'll skip the spoiler warnings and just say I encluded them. Going to rank the classes: 12. SPOILER: show Warrior - I think putting this at the bottom will catch heat but I stand by it. The extra 50 attack passive and the 99,999 passive are the only reasons to use this class unless you have a spear based enemy. Its just not that great. Apoc has better single target AoE and single target damage excluding the divine skill which is very good for damage until you get the optional classes but i think this job just doesnt add any utility for a small damage increase. Olberic is great but only when you marry this kit with other (better) kits. 11. SPOILER: show Dancer - This class is good for farming. That is about it. Sp recovery passive is nice and dark damage is good for about 60 hours or so but by in large this class is best only put on primrose unless you have need of her divine skill. Ophilia as dancer can have some very useful applications against elemental bosses using Dancer divine plus reflect. Far too niche though. 10. SPOILER: show Theif- A lot of things hold this class back. Single target skills galore is a big one. All of the passive suck. Bottom of the bin in that regard. It it werent for its ability to funnel SP into the DPS classes it would be the last on the list but until you get Runelord this is a pretty vital class. 9. SPOILER: show Hunter - The class is good for multi bows and a nice AoE damage from Rain of Arrows but it deserves the spot due to Patience. A must have skill on every party member but especially true for your healers. All of its passive are very solid but it does get out classed by other classes. 8. SPOILER: show Scholar - Until late game this class is a must and while it is def left in the dust once you get get sorcerer the fact that its a staple for 60 hours or so of the game gets it a nod but late game though this kit is useless unless you're conserving SP. Since there is basically a better version of this class I cant put it any higher than this. 7. SPOILER: show Runelord - this set is only this high for one reason: it pairs with merchant in godly ways. the passives are mostly useless and the elemental buff aspects arent that great either. but buffs becoming AoEs is a spammable Dancer divine skill and that is broken in Tressa's hands. Donate BP, Rest and Sidestep are VERY powerful at this point. It also makes Apoc a viable healer but you will have to waste a round on occasion to make it happen. 6. SPOILER: show Starseerer - this kit sucks. Some ok moves and some I would never use. Pairs great with dancer's divine skill though. It has it's spot for the passives. BP eater is a must for all DPS and the double BP at the start of the battle paired with it makes farming and grinding a one turn ordeal. And having the ability to test for the 3 rare elemental types in one move is handy too. 5. SPOILER: show Apothecary - As a healer this class is basically trash. Though paired with runelord does make it better and the debuff clear is unique and really good as an AoE. it has great damage skills from the axe skills but none of those are why its in the top 5. The divine skill is the single best divine skill from the basic classes (and if it werent for Warmaster it would be the absolute best period.) Items as AoE is HUGE. Especially for the tough bosses. 4. SPOILER: show Merchant - Donate BP. Donate BP. DONATE BP. If this werent enough to crack the top 5 (it is) she also has the very high utility of hired help plus some very good passive. SP saver and ...endure? The survive KO passive. Top class set. Plus MONIES. 3. SPOILER: show Sorcerer - If you need nukes we got nukes. Pretty broken class. Triple hit all elementals is killer and lowering elemental def makes it even better. Passive leave a lot to be desired but the kit makes up for it in big ways. 2. SPOILER: show Warmaster - lolthisissoopwtfweretheythinkingifuckingloveitomg for real...what a fucking DPS class. Great options for multi hit breaking massive damage even without the divine skill and quality passives even if theyre a bit situational. You can deal 60k or so pretty easy per divine skill. It has no equal in DPS. 1. SPOILER: show Cleric - No job can half do what this class does. AoE heals. AoE raise. Reflect. These are major skills that every party needs. This job is a must at all times at any part of the game. Saving Grace is probably the best passive in the game as well. Great divine skill too. This is THE must have class no matter what party you build.