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Old 03-11-2010, 08:24 PM   #1
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What does TNA need to do to make WWE legitimately concerned?
What rating (or possibly a type of action) do you think TNA would need to achieve for WWE to look at TNA and say "oh shit, we're in trouble"?

I'm thinking if TNA started doing a 2 and WWE's rating started to slump into the high 2s they'd really get their ass in gear.

Obviously completely hypothetical.

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Old 03-11-2010, 08:34 PM   #2
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I kind of thought 2 would be a good rating for TNA to start to make a move. But what action do they need to take? I don't know. I honestly don't think there is anything they can do to catch up.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...TNA needed a huge start in ratings, and they did a 1. Going live this close to WrestleMania was a bad move. And I believe the NCAA final game is the Monday following Mania. So thats probably going to put them lower than a 1.

Of course you can say TNA needs to go younger...but all the established guys that could bring ratings are going to be WWE rejects, which some people don't think is a good idea...but I don't think stars that are made in TNA are going to bring ratings. Quite frankly, I think the only guy in TNA now that could bring ratings are Jeff Hardy. Sure, RVD is a good talent, and Sting, Hogan, Flair are legends- but I don't think people want to see them that much...and judging by the 1 rating they did, that looks to be proven. AJ Styles is a good wrestler, but he isn't a former WWE superstar, therefore he won't ever get the ratings TNA needs.

So MAYBE a current top WWE Superstar, which isn't likely to happen.

I'd love to see wrestlers jumping ship again. That could help. But time will tell, but TNA picked a bad time.

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More people will defect.. it takes time.. They definetly need a bigger arena and more possibilities for fans to get backstage and to really sell the image of TNA.. I think they do a piss poor job of that right now as I was on the Monday Night Live showing at Universal ringside!
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TNA's been pulling in 1 ratings for the past 5 years. Viewership hasn't really gone up in half a decade. Currently WWE doesn't have to do anything.

If TNA can consistently bring their ratings up to a 2 WWE would take some notice and up their product a little bit... Especially if Raw viewers are tuning into Impact instead.

No one is going to watch TNA for the Nasty Boys.
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TNA's been pulling in 1 ratings for the past 5 years. Viewership hasn't really gone up in half a decade. Currently WWE doesn't have to do anything.

If TNA can consistently bring their ratings up to a 2 WWE would take some notice and up their product a little bit... Especially if Raw viewers are tuning into Impact instead.

No one is going to watch TNA for the Nasty Boys.
A 1 rating on a Monday Night in prime time is better than a 1 rating on a Thursday Night in prime time.

A point in the Nielsen Ratings doesn't correlate to the number of people watching, but the share of people watching overall who are watching your show specifically. Monday is a hotter night for TV, which means more viewers, which means more people per point.

Having pointed that out, I'll move on.

WWE's been stuck around the low 3s for a while now. If TNA could manage to get to the point where they're around a 2 rating, that would certainly make them at least somewhat of a threat. So yeah, I agree.

The question is how they improve the ratings. Honestly, there's no single, easy solution. They need a tighter program with more to appeal to the general audience. They need things that makes anyone on the fence decide they'd rather watch TNA instead of WWE. They need a balance of names an excitement. They need something different, instead of "The TNA Screwjob."
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If they want to be taken legitimately they need to change the name from TNA to something that doesn't sound so immature.
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If they want to be taken legitimately they need to change the name from TNA to something that doesn't sound so immature.
They should switch Impact and TNA around. Use Impact as their company name and TNA as their show name. Impact Wrestling something or just Impact Wrestling. Three words sound best in wrestling companies though. It might not be a good idea to change their name right now. It probably costs looooots of money and months or possibly a year to do.
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If they want to be taken legitimately they need to change the name from TNA to something that doesn't sound so immature.
The name really isn't the problem...but at the same time, the name doesn't fit. There is no Non Stop Action.

Plus changing the name takes away what little recognition they really have. It won't get the publicity WWE got from switching from WWF, which was only one off.

We know TNA is WCW...but can't be called that. And if TNA changed its name, the company would be more of a laughingstock than it already is.
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I'm not exactly sure what sort of number TNA would have to gain, but if their rating was growing and the WWE's was shrinking, I think that alone would be enough to get the attention of the WWE, who I do believe already sweat TNA more than others think.

As for an action -- I think TNA would have to get themselves mainstream media attention for something. Basically, TNA would need to become a "buzz word" when the WWE is not. If TNA is being reported on TMZ and being talked about on sports or gossip shows, then they are going to be getting more attention than the WWE. This is something that would probably coincide with higher ratings and PPV buys, however.

Also, if TNA somehow managed to get John Cena and Randy Orton to sign with them (I don't know how), then I could imagine the WWE sweating themselves a little. But all this requires money. I know TNA has turned a profit, but they need to think about making tons of cash so they can upgrade their set, tour more often, and look like a more secure career choice. Do they still let people into the iMPACT! zone for free? This needs to change.
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The name is a huge problem for new fans, its a terrible name that conveys a retarded image, I mean think about it, would you really brag that you watch TNA? Whats worse is it makes me think of Jeff Jarrett because that no talent ass clown probably came up with it. They don't have any recognition to lose, they already got rid of the shitty ring, make it into a huge story line, have paul heyman come in acting as if he just won the lottery and he's upset that his vision was recently destroyed, and he wants to take on those that would destroy it. There is plenty of ways to get people interested and behind the product, hell NWA would work, but i'm sure thats not on the cards.

The companies not going anywhere with all the part timers.
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TNA needs to go on the road, have only live tv shows, actually develop the talent they have as far as characters, stop waiting for the next wwe released star to make the "man", stop pushing their women's division as if it were SHIMMER, hire acting coaches, get rid of the cartoonish gimmicks, push for a better video game, try to acquire licensed music, do more to put their stars in a mainstream position, scale back the importance of the x-division belt (when is it gonna be the "big thing" & not "the next big thing"? it's been "next" since day 1), hire freddy prinze jr, fire bubba the love sponge, stop recycling old wwe gimmicks, stop trashing wwe on tv, stop trying to make vince sweat, stop promising real talented stars a push... only to have a wwe castaway squash them on tv, stop switching the plans in the middle of a heated feud, come up with a better style of cutting promos, stop letting hogan run shit ( he doesnt bring ratings like he use to), stop trying to make us fans believe eric young has anything more than potential, have longer matches, have fewer matches per show and last but not least...change up the goddamn main event picture from all wwe/wcw has-beens to a few select wwe guys and mostly TNA mid carders. the more they have wwe guys coming in and destroying TNA guys, the weaker TNA looks as a brand.

I know Im a big ass smark, but i feel if TNA just does 3 of these things, they will be neck and neck with wwe by the end of this year.
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TNA needs to go on the road, have only live tv shows, actually develop the talent they have as far as characters, stop waiting for the next wwe released star to make the "man", stop pushing their women's division as if it were SHIMMER, hire acting coaches, get rid of the cartoonish gimmicks, push for a better video game, try to acquire licensed music, do more to put their stars in a mainstream position, scale back the importance of the x-division belt (when is it gonna be the "big thing" & not "the next big thing"? it's been "next" since day 1), hire freddy prinze jr, fire bubba the love sponge, stop recycling old wwe gimmicks, stop trashing wwe on tv, stop trying to make vince sweat, stop promising real talented stars a push... only to have a wwe castaway squash them on tv, stop switching the plans in the middle of a heated feud, come up with a better style of cutting promos, stop letting hogan run shit ( he doesnt bring ratings like he use to), stop trying to make us fans believe eric young has anything more than potential, have longer matches, have fewer matches per show and last but not least...change up the goddamn main event picture from all wwe/wcw has-beens to a few select wwe guys and mostly TNA mid carders. the more they have wwe guys coming in and destroying TNA guys, the weaker TNA looks as a brand.
I would like to add that they should have a booker who understands how to book a COHERENT wrestling program. And do the one thing Hogan paid lip service to, but thus far hasn't done: Promote it as WRESTLING, and not be afraid of the term.
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they just need to be edgy. have edgy segments that make sense, tie into good wrestling matches. They need to get rid of the old men thinking that them wrestling will make people watch tv, and use the relevant stars they have and just have some crazy writing to go along with it. they're on the right channel.
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They need to tour. Step outside of Orlando Florida. And they need to have shows in bigger arenas. Even if they're giving away tickets like WCW did to fill up some of the high seats. Doing this will gain more interest nationwide. Plus it will make them look bigger on TV. Also they need to go live, every week. Not every other week.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:34 AM   #29
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THEY SHOULD SIGN JOHN CENA,HHH AND THE UNDERTAKER.. THEN VINCE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY SHOCK IF THAT HAPPENS... AHAHAH!


just kiding.. they should build new era of there own wrestlers.. because they will not be known if they just copy old wwe wrestlers..

and for the name? TNA IS OKAY.. JUST TNA WRESTLING.. AND THE NAME IS IMPACT.
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Old 03-12-2010, 07:43 AM   #30
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One thing would bring the ratings


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Old 03-12-2010, 08:27 AM   #31
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come within a 1.0 of Raw...... until then, WWE will still consider them another crap, indy promotion.
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:52 AM   #32
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They are doing what they need to do pretty much.

And starting before 'mania isnt neccessarilly a bad thing. There is going to be an adjustment period as they "find their feet", and despite doing poor numbers now, wresting in general gets a lot of promotion this time of year. It should mean that by the time mania is over and WWE tends to get very lazy just after mania. I.e. wrestlemania rematches all night for the next ppv. It shoud mean that by the time people are ready to change the channel to watch wrestling, TNA will be there ready to take them as viewers, they'll have had some practise at live production, and it has to be said, the production value has increased significantly since they first went head to head.

They should also be sure of where they want to go by then.

I think its a good move tbh. Pus Spike seems to be behind them in that they arent that worried about ratings yet. Spike seems prepared to give them some time to get results.

A it needs is for Raw to get lazy 2 or 3 weeks in a row (which has happened a lot in recent years) and peope wil start to change the channel, and inevitibly som eof those people will keep watching.

It takes time to see things happen, Vince hasnt understood that in years, he changes his mind every 30 seconds (so it is reported, aso, figure of speach). Just ook at how many anges or ideas have been simpy dropped. never to be seen again. Don't cryme time stil have a tag title shot owed to them?

Not saying in the sightest that TNA are perfect, there is still too much Hogan for my liking but each to their own. At least he seems to take a back seat to Abyss, however insincere it comes accross.

One thing I loved about TNA this week, I haven't seen a dragon suplex pin in years. The wresting is just better to watch on TNA.
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:59 AM   #36
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They could start by making people pay for tickets and tour so they can get rid of their front row douchebag ROH wannabe fans.
There's really nothing they can do to make the WWE sweat. WWE is such an established brand. People bring up WCW, but WCW already had a long time following with old NWA fans. TNA is such a friggen mess. They have a crowded roster with only 2 hours of TV time a week, wrestlers who don't appear or wrestle every week, too much stock in the X division which nobody cares about despite the claims of the IWC which represents such a small percentage. If u look at WCW, the cruiserweight division while complimenting the upper card, was never a focal point and can't be counted on to draw ratings.
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Old 03-12-2010, 10:01 AM   #37
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Oh and the whole "TNA should be more edgy" doesn't work today. Those fans watch MMA instead of wrestling because it's real. As much flack as the WWE gets for being pg, it's where the fanbase is. The Attitude era's fans have moved on to UFC and don't care about wrestling.
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Old 03-12-2010, 10:04 AM   #38
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