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Old 03-24-2010, 07:02 PM   #1
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Ratings for the week of 3/21/10
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As mentioned earlier, The 3/22 edition of Raw did a 3.24 rating, down from last week's 3.7. The show did hours of 3.04 and 3.44. They averaged 4,505,000 viewers.

The 3/22 edition of Impact did a 0.9 (a 0.86), up from last week's 0.84. The show did 1,173,000 viewers.

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Old 03-24-2010, 07:05 PM   #2
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So where are the "it's taped and against Austin" conspiracy theorists now?
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:05 PM   #3
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:05 PM   #4
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BTW, my was for the rating, not the Austin theory part.

I didn't have any mention of Austin or the taped part.
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:06 PM   #5
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Kinda surprised by the iMPACT! rating. I thought it was a pretty good show.
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:07 PM   #6
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I mean, "It was against the final RAW before Mania! Of course it's going to be low!"
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:49 PM   #7
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Then next week is it's gonna be

"It's the Raw after Mania"

"It's the 2nd Raw after Mania"

"It's the Raw 2 weeks before Backla........."

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Old 03-24-2010, 07:52 PM   #8
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as far as im concerned the score so far is

TNA - 2
WWE - 1
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:12 PM   #9
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as far as im concerned the score so far is

TNA - 2
WWE - 1
TNA and Spike TV should try to convince advertisers to go by your rating system rather than the much more widely used but apparently irrelevant as far as you're concerned Nielsen ratings.
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TNA and Spike TV should try to convince advertisers to go by your rating system rather than the much more widely used but apparently irrelevant as far as you're concerned Nielsen ratings.
so by your logic higher ratings = a better show ?
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:21 PM   #11
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so by your logic higher ratings = a better show ?
there's definitely a correlation, though there are some exceptions.

TNA however is no exception, and does not deserve a better rating than what they are currently getting because it reflects exactly what their show is: crap.
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there's definitely a correlation, though there are some exceptions.

TNA however is no exception, and does not deserve a better rating than what they are currently getting because it reflects exactly what their show is: crap.

actually their show has been really good since the move to mondays
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omg shut the fuck up.
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:28 PM   #14
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This week TNA had the better show but the rest of the weeks RAW has had the edge IMO
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:32 PM   #15
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:22 PM   #16
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TNA definatly had the better show but WWE is a jugernaut they will continue to dominate until they REALLY and I mean REEEEEAAAAALLLLLLYYYYYY screw up
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Old 03-25-2010, 12:58 AM   #17
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They're not dominating though.

WWE is operating as a business, and so is TNA.

They're really in no competition with each other - which means WWE can't be dominating them.
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:25 AM   #18
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TNA's ratings are up from last week?!? They are doomed!!!!!

I have to agree with KK and KayfabeMan when it comes to these sort of ratings discussion. KK knows his shit about that stuff, and Kayfabes has got Conan in his avatar. But no, I have to agree with them.

It's not about TNA all of sudden beating the WWE, and it's not about the WWE's ratings not dropping tremendously overnight. But regardless of the jokes you wish to sling about them, I'd say that the WWE's lack of "WrestleMania killer ratings" could be a good sign for TNA. As I said in the "What does TNA have to do to get the WWE panicking" thread (not exactly what it was called), I believe if TNA's ratings slowly increase over time, while the WWE's decrease, then that alone will be enough to get a more visible reaction out of the WWE -- and that alone is good for wrestling fans.
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Old 03-25-2010, 06:13 AM   #19
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I don't get it, I think Monday's Impact was great. Much better then last weeks. I'm not sure what they need to do to grab the attention of the wrestling fans.
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Old 03-25-2010, 11:42 AM   #20
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I'm not sure what they need to do to grab the attention of the wrestling fans.
There's another thing.

There aren't many WRESTLING fans out there.

There are a great deal of WWE fans, but that is because for going on the past 10 years it has been a 'wrestling world' dominated by just WWE. TNA has been around, like RoH, but not as visible as WWE.

A good deal of WWE fans strictly watch WWE and are in their bubble. They don't know about or care about the indies, RoH, TNA, any of the overseas promotions - etc.

A LOT of people tuned out of wrestling all together after the demises of ECW and WCW. Hopefully, some of those people will catch TNA - and hopefully (as KK said) if they put on consistently strong shows, they will stay watching it again.
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Old 03-25-2010, 06:22 AM   #21
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Do it week in, week out, for months on end?

That's how long it took for RAW to overtake WCW in the ratings, and that was even after RAW was a greatly established and well known show, part of the WWE.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:32 AM   #22
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Do it week in, week out, for months on end?

That's how long it took for RAW to overtake WCW in the ratings, and that was even after RAW was a greatly established and well known show, part of the WWE.


Having a couple of good shows won't do it. It won't get people tuning in, it won't get people talking.

When they are consistently strong, they will start to see more people watching. They are not right now.
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:45 PM   #23
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Like I said the week of Austin's appearance, I'd agree they're having issues if they can't at least match a 1.2 on week where RAW doesn't have a legend like Austin on.

The fact is, there are no simple solutions for TNA to gain more viewers. Some of the people on this forum are good examples, I've asked this already, but what keeps WWE viewers watching WWE? I used to be a huge WWE/F fan in the 90s, but it's become so stale now, I don't understand why people even bother tuning in, it's too predictable now. You can watch one RAW at the beginning of a month and be covered until the next PPV, imo.

I started watching wrestling again after years of not caring once TNA moved to Mondays. I have been watching it because it's different, and even if it was different in a bad way, I'd still check it out over something that was predictable.

How many Hornswoggle appearances can WWE viewers withstand before they just stop watching? How many douche-chills can John Cena give you with his promos before you start to feel like a 10 year old when watching their shows?

Wrestling in general has been pretty bad in recent years, imo. I'm giving TNA the benefit of the doubt, I feel they just need time and they need to be given a chance by loyal WWE fans. Out of the two years that Nitro was dominating RAW, Mick Foley stated that he believed RAW was producing the better show for at least one of those years, and I agree. My point is, it's possible that even though TNA can produce an entertaining show, the ratings won't reflect that until enough time has passed for people to actually check out the show and they begin to gradually build their audience.
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I tend to agree with most of the posts here... Even though TNA has been up and down every week since Hogan and co. came in some of the shows have been pretty decent. WWE could put out shit like the Kiss My Ass club, and most of their fans would still watch. A lot of the actual wrestling fans that used to watch have been turned off of the product long ago, as proven by the fact that Raw no longer draws ratings in the high 4s like during the Monday Night Wars. It's not so much that either group are competing. WWF won the war, then proceeded to kill American wrestling.
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As mentioned earlier, The 3/22 edition of Raw did a 3.24 rating, down from last week's 3.7. The show did hours of 3.04 and 3.44. They averaged 4,505,000 viewers.

The 3/22 edition of Impact did a 0.9 (a 0.86), up from last week's 0.84. The show did 1,173,000 viewers.
The March 15 ratings on Nielsen's site were significantly late this week, but according to them, the 3/15 ratings were 3.2 and 3.2 with viewers at 5.6 and 5.5 million. Wow.
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Until TNA stops delivering the most awful bush league bullshit to ever disgrace my television, they will not be a threat. WWE isn't very good, but I'd rather watch the product go through the motions rather than horse shit being force fed to me as "revolutionary television". Once TNA puts together a product that doesn't make me want to immediately change the channel, they will have my support... until then, I'll stick to watch 20 minutes of RAW.
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Until TNA stops delivering the most awful bush league bullshit to ever disgrace my television, they will not be a threat. WWE isn't very good, but I'd rather watch the product go through the motions rather than horse shit being force fed to me as "revolutionary television". Once TNA puts together a product that doesn't make me want to immediately change the channel, they will have my support... until then, I'll stick to watch 20 minutes of RAW.
your shoddy opinion makes me want to immediately change threads
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There is a big difference between a company being COMPETITION, and it being a THREAT.

Yes, TNA is COMPETITION to WWE, because theyre both wrestling companies, and they are COMPETING against each other, each trying to garner the fans' support and be #1...

...but TNA is no THREAT to WWE...nor will it ever be.
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There is a big difference between a company being COMPETITION, and it being a THREAT.

Yes, TNA is COMPETITION to WWE, because theyre both wrestling companies, and they are COMPETING against each other, each trying to garner the fans' support and be #1...

...but TNA is no THREAT to WWE...nor will it ever be.
and bret hart will never come back to the wwe, anything can happen in this wonderful sport
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It's a shame that "Anything can happen" is more the model for the entertainment end, not the ratings and competition end.

I mean, if you want to wax incredibly abstract, anything can happen. A freak accident could take out WWE's production gear. Jesus could appear live on TNA. Hell, that Large Hadron Collider could create a black hole that spontaneously consumes Connecticut, effectively crippling WWE's business end.

Realistically, practically, you can hold on to that hope, but it doesn't make it even remotely meaningful.

Unless you plan on strapping a bomb to your chest and running into the WWE production truck...and while the thought of you blowing up is enticing, I wouldn't recommend trying.
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Eplain to me what is good about TNA aside from a few well worked matches amidst the wave of feces that is the product. How is it not bush league?
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Old 03-29-2010, 07:21 AM   #33
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That, and the fact that most of WWE's writers are a threat to WWE
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I dunno, Dale, I normally agree with you, but I think TNA is pretty alright. I like the way their characters are real people. For example -- even though Kevin Nash is a heel and Kurt Angle is a face; they acknowledged each other by bumping fists on iMPACT! this week because they share a past in the Main Event Mafia. It's not like they suddenly hate each other because one is a "good guy" and one is a "bad guy."

Sometimes that gets confusing for people, granted, but TNA have been sorting that out quite well. The line between face and heel is a lot more defined than it used to be in TNA, but that individuality of character is still there. I love that about TNA. If they real it in a bit, it could become quite the mature product.
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I dunno, Dale, I normally agree with you, but I think TNA is pretty alright. I like the way their characters are real people. For example -- even though Kevin Nash is a heel and Kurt Angle is a face; they acknowledged each other by bumping fists on iMPACT! this week because they share a past in the Main Event Mafia. It's not like they suddenly hate each other because one is a "good guy" and one is a "bad guy."

Sometimes that gets confusing for people, granted, but TNA have been sorting that out quite well. The line between face and heel is a lot more defined than it used to be in TNA, but that individuality of character is still there. I love that about TNA. If they real it in a bit, it could become quite the mature product.
I'm sorry but a face and a heel fist bumping doesn't make a good company.
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:01 PM   #36
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The only way TNA catches up to WWE is if they implode on themselves. TNA is way too shit to do it by themselves.
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