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Old 04-02-2010, 01:19 PM   #1
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"The Hitman" gimmick
Is it just me or was Bret Hart's gimmick mainly just a guy who's really good at telling a story in the ring while wearing pink tights? I don't recall many cheesy lines about him being a hired hitman or anything. Seriously, what was his main gimmick?

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Old 04-02-2010, 01:21 PM   #2
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The only gimmick he really used was the Pro-Canada thing for a while. He was a straight up wrestler who didn't really need a gimmick. One of the few who got over on talent and name value alone.
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The only gimmick he really used was the Pro-Canada thing for a while. He was a straight up wrestler who didn't really need a gimmick. One of the few who got over on talent and name value alone.
This is what I thought.
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He exploited his family name and his brothers in the assist as well.
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He borrowed the nickname from the boxer Thomas Hearns (with his blessing) just because he thought it sounded cool. There was never any mention of him being an actual hitman. The closest thing I can come up with for the name actually being a fitting one is that he was extremely precise with his work, much like a hitman.
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Did he get that nickname because he executed people!?
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Old 04-02-2010, 01:58 PM   #9
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bret hart is like bryan danielson, they both lack charisma but the crowd still loves them
exactly what JGKY said no gimmicks needed
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bret hart is like bryan danielson, they both lack charisma but the crowd still loves them
exactly what JGKY said no gimmicks needed
Did you seriously just compare Bret Hart to some no name?
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Did you seriously just compare Bret Hart to some no name?
byran danielson isn't exactly some no-name, im just pointing out the similarities both not charismatic at all both very impressive in the ring and i think thats why they can get over like they do, with all the outlandish characters with huuuuge ego's the crowd can really get behind a straight up athlete.
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:12 PM   #14
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byran danielson isn't exactly some no-name, im just pointing out the similarities both not charismatic at all both very impressive in the ring and i think thats why they can get over like they do, with all the outlandish characters with huuuuge ego's the crowd can really get behind a straight up athlete.
The lack of charisma is not al true for Bret though. His charisma wasnt flashy or full of pizazz but he had that something that drew people in, not to mention he was a great storyteller and managed to cut promos and such that made you believe in them, that made them feel all the more legit. He was probably the best at that.
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:48 PM   #15
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bret hart is like bryan danielson, they both lack charisma but the crowd still loves them
exactly what JGKY said no gimmicks needed
Danielson actually has a lot of charisma. Watch him in ROH in 2006 and tat is some top quality heel work. His mic skills are pretty good. The whole "I have til 5" thing was his biggest catch phrase and was done during a match.

I dare say Danielson takes the technical expertise of Bret Hart (William Regal really) and combines it with the in-ring showmanship of Shawn Michaels. It's an awesome combination.
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:25 PM   #16
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HEewas like a hitman. He went out and got the job done.
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:43 PM   #17
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Basically that's what garbagemen and 100000 other professions do as well.
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bret hart is like bryan danielson, they both lack charisma but the crowd still loves them
exactly what JGKY said no gimmicks needed
Totally disagree. Bret Hart has great mic skills, and I've never understood why some guys think otherwise.
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Totally disagree. Bret Hart has great mic skills, and I've never understood why some guys think otherwise.
Seemed very unsure of himself on the mic outside of a few angles in the Canada vs US storyline.

It's a similar problem I have with Morrison. He can be okay, but he always seems very unsure of himself if it's not a sketch. The confidence issue takes a lot away for me.

Bret has just enough charisma, though. Just sub-par mic skills. (They are not one in the same.)
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Bret has just enough charisma, though. Just sub-par mic skills. (They are not one in the same.)
Bret was pretty good on the mic when he had to be.
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Bret was pretty good on the mic when he had to be.
Very rarely and was the exception, not the rule.
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Very rarely and was the exception, not the rule.
I'll give that to you, but when it really mattered Bret knew how to deliver.
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Bret has just enough charisma, though. Just sub-par mic skills. (They are not one in the same.)
I guess the biggest comparison we could have to this in today's wrestling world is Jeff Hardy. Whether anyone wants to argue that he has improved or not, Jeff has been a pretty shitty mic worker for most of his career. But like Bret, he didn't need it to get over.
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I guess the biggest comparison we could have to this in today's wrestling world is Jeff Hardy. Whether anyone wants to argue that he has improved or not, Jeff has been a pretty shitty mic worker for most of his career. But like Bret, he didn't need it to get over.
Completely agreed.
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Bret Hart was Bret Hart on the mic and it's all he ever needed to be.
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kareru I've decided you don't understand wrestling all that much. Well I'm sure you do, but you see it in a very black and white way.
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TNA-2 WWE-1 is all I need to say.
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that was just my scoring on my rate of enjoyment,
it must be a british thing because impact and smackdown are by far the highest rated wrestling shows over here
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that was just my scoring on my rate of enjoyment,
it must be a british thing because impact and smackdown are by far the highest rated wrestling shows over here
Smackdown is a WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY fucking better show than Impact.
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Xero what are you talking about? He was just a straight shooter on the mic same as he was in the ring. God you're infuriating when you talk about bret hart lol. It's not liek Shawn Michaels was all that much better on the mic. Neither of them were a Rock or an Austin but they cut promos that were straight to the point.
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Old 04-02-2010, 04:07 PM   #35
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Xero what are you talking about? He was just a straight shooter on the mic same as he was in the ring. God you're infuriating when you talk about bret hart lol. It's not liek Shawn Michaels was all that much better on the mic. Neither of them were a Rock or an Austin but they cut promos that were straight to the point.
I hate Shawn Michaels and I agree that he was better on the mic than Bret
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Michaels kept my attention and they felt like they had emotion. Plus a lot of Shawn's had character.

Bret's, not so much.
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Bret's promos were exactly his character. The humble hero. You seem to forget that when Shawn was champ he had the same fanbase as Cena.
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Bret's promos were exactly his character. The humble hero. You seem to forget that when Shawn was champ he had the same fanbase as Cena.
I won't take anything away from Bret in the ring (he can be boring TO ME, but that doesn't mean I can't respect his work). However, the vast majority of Bret's promos just didn't feel like they had emotion. I understand that he didn't NEED to be over the top, and I wouldn't expect him to be. There just felt like something was missing and, again, felt like he was unsure of himself.

Did his promos get the job done? Absolutely. But they could have been much better for the position he was in.

No idea why we're talking about Shawn being shoved down our throats, though. Not talking about pushes, just mic work.
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I won't take anything away from Bret in the ring (he can be boring TO ME, but that doesn't mean I can't respect his work). However, the vast majority of Bret's promos just didn't feel like they had emotion. I understand that he didn't NEED to be over the top, and I wouldn't expect him to be. There just felt like something was missing and, again, felt like he was unsure of himself.

Did his promos get the job done? Absolutely. But they could have been much better for the position he was in.

No idea why we're talking about Shawn being shoved down our throats, though. Not talking about pushes, just mic work.
His character was kinda like the original Cena though. We had vince up his ass, and Shawn would just kiss ass sooooooooo hard. Mind you he was great on the mic as a heel, but I'd say Bret was just as good as a heel on the mic.

Now when Michaels came back in '02 his promos were WAY better. But the original big face run, he was super hokey and gay and like Bret said he played that "male stripper" gimmick. It was like he was this uber cocky guy but sucking up to the fans... it was pretty fucking annoying.
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No idea why we're talking about Shawn being shoved down our throats, though. Not talking about pushes, just mic work.
I think he's talking about his first championship push. It's true that in a way, Shawn had an almost Cena push.

Fans started by warming up to him when he was a heel. WWF pulled the trigger, made him champ, but then he became the smiling babyface with his "clique" cam and all that stuff. Video packages all the time, etc. Then fans got tired (except girls and kids), even started cheering for Sid against him (which has always baffled me). When he turned heel again and started DX, things got good for him again.

I think Cena is stuck in the "fans start cheering opponents", but WWE won't pull the trigger because he's selling too much merchandise. Michaels could be afforded as a heel back then because they had Austin who started selling lots of merchandise, while they're only other option in that field these days is probably Mysterio.
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