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ROCK SMASH!!!!!!
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Daniel Bryan: The Best Wrestler No One Cares About
Now before anyone gets upset, please know that I think Danielson is an extremely talented wrestler. His pay-per-view matches tend to be the best on the card and I don't mind him as US champion. But Gertner was completely right. The crowd on NXT tonight was dead when he came out. The attempts to get interest in him (Derrick Bateman, The Bella Twins) aren't working. You know it's bad when R-Truth has to rally the crowd to get a response for him. If things don't change, I see him getting future endeavored. What will it take for the crowd to care about Bryan Danielson?
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put him up against guys like sheamus , orton, miz and morrison ,cm punk and also cena .. and making them tap out or at least wrestle to a time limit .I think that would be the best and fastest way .
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Quark is Less Impressed.
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I'm already upset from the title of this thread. :foc:
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ROCK SMASH!!!!!!
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Quark is Less Impressed.
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That's bullshit. He was getting chants when he wasn't even there. Fatal Fourway they were chanting his name during every single match and when the show was fading to black.
Nobody cares about NXT why would you think that NXT reactions count at all? Besides "nobody" is a stupid word to use since we care about him on TPWW. We're not nobody. |
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He's Here
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He's only over with the smart fans who know what he's capable of. Until WWE wants him to get over, he won't. It's pretty clear they don't want him over right now, but they also don't want him left off the show. I seriously doubt he'll get future endeavored unless he goes the Low Ki route and decides to part ways.
I see his current stint as paying WWE dues. I'm not happy with it, but I don't really care. Matches like the series with Ziggler make it worth it. |
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I'm Brllnt!
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Didn't he already pay his dues during his stint in NXT season 1? I blame this stupid 'ladies man' gimmick wwe gave him...it needs to end now and/or turn him heel.
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#8 |
He's Here
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To be perfectly honest, he was booked pretty strong on NXT. Yes, he lost, but he hung with guys like Jericho and Batista. His first WWE match was a good showing against the World champion. His feud with Michael Cole was actually really well done as well, if left unresolved.
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boop/bop/beep
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I think he'll be just fine. He doesn't have enough of a fanbase for people to care about his random matches with even more underdeveloped characters like Tyson Kidd and Ted Dibiase. Once he gets another program with a heel that people actually care about, people will be interested again.
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Hey
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He got a great reaction in Boston but that's a smark crowd.
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#12 |
He's Here
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Hey
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But yeah Bryan is not super over cause he's not really doing anything. He doesn't even really get mic time and on TV he gets the jobber entrance during commercials treatment like 60%-80% of the time, his lack of overness is not his fault at all, when he had a program he was over simple as that. |
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they popped for almost everyone..it almost felt like a sheepish crowd, but i was ok with it, because it provided a strong energy. they gave chavo a standing O (which he deserved) and you are right, they popped for regal. they also popped for Del Rio, Miz, Punk, Nexus music, hell the only one they didnt give a reaction too really was Kane, and thats because they all thought it was gonna be trips.
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by the way xero ,Sheamus is looking real evil as your avatar,kinda cool.
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He's Here
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The first 10 minutes or so of the Rumble was the best pure wrestling moment in Rumble history.
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Hey Mister!
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I have enoyed Bryan's ringwork, but every time he picks up a mic, he bores the shit out of me.
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Yup and then when you factor in the Morrison display and then the entertaining Nexus dominance you had probably had one of the most entertaining Rumbles ever, until Cena at 22 and Hornswaggle at 23. It pretty much died from there. |
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Over Like Rover
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grrrr evil sports entertainers
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Hey
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Ninja Mod, Esquire
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The odd thing about Bryan is, the crowd is quieter when he comes out, but they really seem to get into his matches. You can talk about his entrance, but you can't deny that in his matches with Miz, Ziggler, etc, people were solidly behind him. Now of course some credit goes to Miz and Ziggler for being excellent heels, BUT, the crowd wasn't booing them as much as they were getting behind Bryan.
I think part of the problem is because he hasn't been able to connect with the crowd. He gets a decent amount of tv time, but very little time on the actual mic. Instead, the only real info the crowd knows about him is that he's a vegan, Cole things he's a nerd, and he's dating Gail Kim. Give him a feud where he has a chance to get on the mic and actually get angry. Give him a chance to get past the goofy, smiley person, and give him a chance to get angry and competitive, and for the crowd to want to see what he's going to do. With that said, DB won't be fired anytime soon. He knows how to play the game (he's great at backstage politics stuff, not because he's using it to get ahead per se, just because he knows how he's supposed to act.) Also, he's one of the best at making other guys look good. |
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Ninja Mod, Esquire
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Oh, and change his music.
Classical music does not hype up the crowd. |
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#23 |
Hey
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Ninja Mod, Esquire
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He picked the Final Countdown because it was considered one of the worst songs, and he did it as a joke. Then, it caught on, so he kept using it. I get the feeling he picked this as an inside joke to himself, but it's just awful. And seriously, it's not going to catch on, WWE has a great team, why can't they come up with something good? I mean, yeah, classic themes work for Flair and Savage, but those themes were tailored more to the rich/grand gimmick. |
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Hey
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Celestia's Left Hand
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Hey I like Wagner even if he was an antisemitic dick :foc: but yea youre half right he might need a better intro to the theme But if fans can get behind Thus Spoke Zarathustra or Pomp and Circumstance They can get behind DB's theme |
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MVP Mark
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I Am Perfection
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I hate Daniel Bryan. I've hated him from the very start. Maybe he can wrestle in the ring, but unfortunately it takes much more then that to be a star in wrestling. He doesn't have the look going on for him. He doesn't have charisma. He sucks on the Mic. He has no gimmick of his own.
I just don't buy into it. I think the only reason so many people say they do. Is because "it's the cool thing to do". Support the underdog, the underrated, undiscovered Brian Danielson. I bet half of the jack-offs who say they support him from the indy scenes never heard of him before NxT. I in particular don't give a shit about the indy scene. And you can bash all you want, but secretly you don't give a shit either. |
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Ninja Mod, Esquire
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Seriously though, I've never understood the "you're doing it because it's the cool thing to do" argument. I'm fairly certain that most people here don't give two shits about like Danielson because some other people here do, and they want to be "cool." Have you ever considered that some people just like WRESTLING, and he's a good WRESTLER? |
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I Am Perfection
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Are you seriously arguing with the fact that the majority of the people on here don't just jump on the ship with the most people? Sure people like you and I realize that this is just a simple internet forum with a bunch of nerds who have nothing else better to do with their free time.(yes this includes myself) There's no way you can seriously deny that most people, on any forum. Jump on board to "what's popular". Simply because it's popular. Maybe my wording of "doing it to be cool" wasn't the right way to say it. But the point I was trying to make is that the majority of people, especially those of the younger crowd jump on whatever's popular at the time. |
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Hey Mister!
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Maybe some of the newer, younger posters behave the way you describe, but the regulars like what they say they like, and dislike what they say they dislike. You obviously don't post enough to make such accusations, as if you did, you would realize that there is a rather large group of posters who dislike daniel bryan and the indys in general. Which, by the way, pretty much proves your arguement completely false. |
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Celestia's Left Hand
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makes any argument from your end fall flat |
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I Am Perfection
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It's a fucking joke slap nutz. See the animated avatar? It's supposed to press on the sarcasm a little harder for people like you who can't comprehend the joke in the name itself. Clearly I have touched a nerve with you in bashing your boy Daniel Bryanson. Last I checked the topic of the thread was solely made for the debate of this very discussion. It's not like I went on a "I love Daniel Bryanson" Thread and started informing people of the truth of his lameness. So therefore I think I have every right to make any argument. With it being Absolutely, and Completely Relevant. Whether my user name be Fred Bizkit, Justin Beiber, or Larry Busey- Garry Busey's younger undiscovered Step Brother. |
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Total Non-Stop Apologist
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He'll get his time to be over with the fans. Right now they have nothing for him and they haven't given the casual WWE fan a reason to get behind him. The only place he got time to develop a character was on NXT and most casual fans didn't really watch that.
Danielson is way too good of an all around talent (yes I'm including mic skills as well) to go ignored for very long. The only way Danielson doesn't become a star in the WWE is if he goes the Val Venis route and not step up and demand feuds. |
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Hey
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This is great btw!
They fake Bryan Danielson coming out to the NXT theme and then cut into Final Countdown. |
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YesYesYes!
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Ninja Mod, Esquire
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Hey, I love the Final Countdown. Don't shoot the messenger. I just read in an interview or something that he picked it because he saw it on a list of bad songs, and thought it'd be hilarious.
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#38 |
He's Here
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Hey
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Heh sorry, I think it workes really well though it has a recognizable (not that FOV doesn't but it's really not as audible an intro) intro, a mini countdown into the rest of the song, it practically times it self. Could you imagine lights go out, the opening riff plays then when it hits the countdown part the titan trons lights up counting down and then bam DB comes out right after the countdown. |
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Examples: The Undertaker - "For Whom The Bell Tolls" by Metallica Chris Jericho - "Thunderkiss '65" by White Zombie Finlay - "Pride (In The Name Of Love)" by U2 |
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