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Old 06-29-2011, 11:46 PM   #1
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Prometheus (Alien prequel?)
Damon Lindelof writes. Ridley Scott directs. Starring Magneto, Stringer Bell, and Rita Leeds. Out next summer.

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Writer Damon Lindelof Explains Alien Connection to Prometheus

By Fiona | June 29, 2011 @ 5:07pm | Movie News


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So, what do we know about the upcoming Ridley Scott‘s Prometheus? We know that it’s going to be a sci-fi action spectacle. That’s for sure.
We also know that the movie was originally developed as an Alien prequel. And, that some great cast is on board, because Logan Marshall-Green, Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbender, Charlize Theron, Rafe Spall, Idris Elba, Sean Harris and Kate Dickie are all set to star in it.
But we hate the fact that the plot details are still a mystery and that, beside above mentioned things, we know absolutely nothing about this project!
So, thank God somebody finally revealed some interesting details about the whole thing! And that person is Damon Lindelof, man responsible for the Prometheus story, who appeared on the Kevin Pollak’s Chat Show and spoke at length about the genesis of Prometheus and its connection to the Alien universe.
Here’s what he had to say: “It started as an ‘Alien’ prequel. That is what everybody wanted it to be. Obviously, Ridley Scott has not made a science fiction movie in 25 years, sinceBlade Runner, so the idea that he’s returning to this genre is huge. But there is a real issue which is – what is the state of the ‘Alien’ franchise at this point in our lives? There has been ‘Alien vs. Predator’ and all these things, and its been completely and totally diluted. I’ve always felt that really good prequels should be original movies.

And the sequels to those prequels should not be the movie which already exists because, with all due respect to anyone who makes a prequel, but why would you ruin the greatest twist in the history of cinema, “Luke, I am your father”, by showing me three movies which basically spoil that surprise. You can do movies which take place before ‘Star Wars’, but I don’t need to see the story of the Skywalker clan. Show me something else which I can’t guess the possible outcome of. There is no suspense in inevitability. So a true prequel should essentially proceed the events of the original film, but be about something entirely different, feature different characters , have an entirely different theme, although it takes place in that same world. That was my fundamental feeling about what this movie wanted to be.”
“And truth be told” – continued Lindelof – “it wasn’t script doctoring in the strictest sense because the draft that existed before I came on was written by this guy named Jon Spaihts and it was very good. And there were a lot of things in the movie, ‘Prometheus,’ which were Jon Spaihts’ and I feel like somewhere in the media reconstruction of this story, the tale is that I come in, I pitch an entirely new story, and its so original that everything else gets thrown out and that’s what we’re doing. In my brain, that’s not exactly what happened.
But I also do feel that this movie is the movie I would want to see as a fanboy, take place in that ‘Alien’ universe, which precedes the events of the original Alien, but is not necessarily burdened by all the tropes of that franchise with Facehuggers and Chestbursters, and all that stuff that I love… but its sorta like, we’ve seen it before, can we do something different this time? And thats the movie that Ridley wanted to make. And when you’re working with an auteur, you basically just shut your mouth and listen and try to transcribe and channel the vision of that person, and get out of the way.”
As you already know, Prometheus will hit the theaters on June 8th, 2012 in 3D.
We brought you some interesting details from the interview that we definitely recommend you to check out right here on FilmoFilia!
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:10 AM   #3
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Did anyone else read that and have no fucking clue what he means.

So its a Prequel that is nothing like the originals because by being like it you would be spoiled by knowing what happens in the future?

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Old 06-30-2011, 10:19 AM   #4
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Yeah that shit didn't really make sense.
Mad excited for this tho. A screenshot was leaked a while back and was immediately taken down from every site.
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It's a prequel that explains the Space Jockeys and 'possibly' the original engineering of the Xenomorph biological weapon (which went on to be bred by the Predators as ultimate game). An android, Wayland Corp, Space Jockey, and perhaps an early ancestor of the Xenomorph should be present. I'm very excited.

What he meant was you can do a prequel without direct links to the current movies; it would be all too easy to have, say, Ripley's mom turn out to be a former board member of Wayland-Yutani who screwed them over, so Ripley's task on LV426 was some kind of revenge ploy by a later member. Some shit like that.
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I think what he means is he wants to do a prequel where you can't guess or already know how it ends. Like in "Star Wars." Well we already know Anakin Skywalker is going to be Darth Vader, so wheres the fun in that?

He wants to do a move in the same universe as the Aliens movies but not have too much tie in with the original movie.
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New Ridley Scott Movie: Prometheus


Current Official Synopsis

Ridley Scott, director of 'Alien' and 'Blade Runner,' returns to the genre he helped define. With PROMETHEUS, he creates a groundbreaking mythology, in which a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race.

Original Official Synopsis

Visionary filmmaker Ridley Scott returns to the genre he helped define, creating an original science fiction epic set in the most dangerous corners of the universe. The film takes a team of scientists and explorers on a thrilling journey that will test their physical and mental limits and strand them on a distant world, where they will discover the answers to our most profound questions and to life's ultimate mystery.

What we know so far:

Little is known about Prometheus' plotline. But what we can share with you is that the film is set in space for the most part. Similar to that of "ALIEN"; the jumping off point to this project. The film's name "Prometheus" is that of the space vessel, used by a crew of select individuals who set off to explore and investigate fragments of "Alien DNA".

The film itself revolves around the Space Jockey creature; as seen in the original film ALIEN (1979). When the team of scientists embark on this journey, they get stranded on an Alien world which tests their limits; both mental and physical.

Prometheus is also largely based on the creation of mankind, life and the Earth. From the recent synopsis publicly released by 20th Century Fox, we can determine roughly that Prometheus involves a team of scientists, "The Company" representatives and robot / synthetics which investigate and search for keys to unlock man's ultimate mystery. But in the process, they threaten the future existence of mankind and are faced with unimaginable horrors.

The Aliens themselves are said to be much larger than the original "Xenomorphs" we are used to. However, their overall construction will be easily noticable to that of the original Alien canon.

Prometheus will be much more than just an Alien sci-fi horror. Ridley Scott is digging deeper for this project and Prometheus will unlock many questions and will touch on many aspects of life and existence. A true masterpiece.

http://www.prometheus-movie.com/
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I've been interested in this ever since I read the premise months ago.
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Space Jockeys are neat.
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ah yes, I didnt see this got its own thread already..
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"Not an Alien Prequel" my ass.
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I wonder if chronology is really going to matter with this one.
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What do you mean? It pretty much takes place before Alien.
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Not sure what to make of this one it could be great but I remember trailers for what look to be great sci-fi movies (ie Mission to Mars) only to find out they were utter crap but Charlize Theron is in it so it can't be that bad.
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Yeah, but if there are no real connections in the storyline it wouldn't really matter.

Also, what's considered canon with this project? Is this a universe where Predators exist? Did Alien 3 and Resurrection happen or will they happen?

I get that doing a prequel makes sense and was Scott's original idea because he wanted to tell the story of the Pilot/Space jockeys...but do you really need to go backward to understand their story?

My understanding is that a lot of major changes have taken place with the script/story and I just get this feeling after reading a lot of this that it wouldn't matter if it happened ten years before Ripley made contact or fifty years after Aliens.

Time will tell...
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I like Ridley Scott enough to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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I'd wager they made this with Alien in mind, and everything after is up to the fans as far as canon goes. Predators will likely not get a mention, as Ridley had nothing to do with the merging of the latter end of the franchises.

This takes place before Alien, but doesn't aim to explain Alien. As I wrote in the original thread (now merged with this):

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What he meant was you can do a prequel without direct links to the current movies; it would be all too easy to have, say, Ripley's mom turn out to be a former board member of Wayland-Yutani who screwed them over, so Ripley's task on LV426 was some kind of revenge ploy by a later member. Some shit like that.
So I understand you. I'm just pointing out that this is certainly a prequel in the timeline, and it certainly precedes Alien in mythology. It's not Star Wars prequel direct but it's a story that takes place before Alien.
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Ahhhh. Good then. I trust Scott not to fuck this up. It looks fantastic, I am hopefully going to see it in the theater.
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This is something I would not give public people a chance to fuck up for me. I will watch this when it drops on DVD in the dark, lonely quiet of my own home. Long wait, yeah, but way worth it.
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I'm super-psyched for this. Alien is one of my favorite movies of all time, and from what I can tell from the trailer, Scott's going out of his way to recapture the same atmosphere from the original. Whether the Xenos themselves are in it or not, it looks cool as hell.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:42 PM   #24
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They should be like queen sized xenos in this one, actually.
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I remember there was a comic in the late 90s I think, that featured Xenos that had come out of Jockeys. They were like dinosaur-sized.
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I wonder if the Xenomorphs are tied to us in some way. Maybe we're both creations of the Jockies.
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From that website that's the direction of the story from what I gather.
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Alien is in my opinion, the greatest horror movie of all time. Hopefully this is a return to form.

Also, I hope this spawns a true Alien sequel. A horror sequel. Not the action movies we've gotten.
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Maybe James Cameron will direct the sequel.
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Frame by frame breakdown of the trailer:

http://io9.com/5870560/frame+by+fram...-man/gallery/1

This seems to be the origins story of how Xenomorphs came to be. Excited.
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Ooh. They grabbed Noomi Rapace for this.

That girl is on her way up in hollywood.
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Xenos are somehow Decendant from humans. Some Disease or Virus changes humans into them...Which Explains why they lay eggs in Humans.

Something like that. My guess at leasrt.
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Want nothing to do with the plot of Alien Rez...

I think we're all tiny Space Jockeys and that aliens are an experiment gone wrong.
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Most likely they're weapons of some sort.
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I don't know if this canon will count as part of Promotheus or not but..
In a lot of the Alien comics and books..the space jockey race is explored further. It is mentioned that they are bastards. Like to invade planets and just suck them dry off their resources. The xenomorphs are a biological weapon they developed which backfired and ultimately consumed their entire civilization.
I am sure some elements of that will be borrowed.
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Yes, but there's issues with the comic books as far as canon goes. In the comics they were basically elephant people for instance.

Ridley might decide to throw that out for what he orginally intended them to be...
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Doubt the comics will factor.
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Well, right..that is what I said.
I doubt they will follow the comics or books but I can see them looking at the idea of aliens being a weapon. Who knows. Interested in Scott's take of the subject.
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