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Old 04-13-2012, 03:36 PM   #1
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UFC president Dana White's stance on the use of performance enhancing drugs by the fighters who work for him can be summarized in two simple sentences:
• If you think there is a lot of PED abuse in the UFC, you'd be stunned by how much there is in the NFL and Major League Baseball.
• UFC fighters are regulated by the government, so they're monitored more carefully than other athletes.
The second point is laughably off the mark and is simply a means to redirect scrutiny away from the UFC's lack of a comprehensive drug testing policy.
Thiago Silva is back from his one-year suspension. (Getty Images)State athletic commissions are in such severe financial straits that many of them are on the verge of collapse. The Oklahoma State Athletic Commission may be dissolved, and events will no longer be regulated in the state if a tax assessed on promoters is overturned.
Promoters such as the UFC who sell a pay-per-view event to a resident of the state of Oklahoma are assessed a four-percent tax per sale, even if the event emanates from another state or country. So, for every $50 UFC pay-per-view that someone who lives in Oklahoma buys, the UFC must pay the Oklahoma State Athletic Commission $2.
Stunningly, that income comprises the bulk of the state's funding for its commission. The UFC is threatening a lawsuit if the tax isn't rescinded.
Whether the tax is fair is a debate for another time, but the fact that Oklahoma's commission survives on that revenue is indicative of its perilous financial situation. There is no way Oklahoma can do any meaningful drug testing of fighters who compete in the state because the cost is more than its minuscule budget could bear.
And Oklahoma isn't alone. Even states with healthier budgets are stretched thin. In Nevada, athletic commission workers still take furlough days in order to keep down costs.
Regulators are like Sisyphus, pushing a very large stone up a very steep hill in order to try to combat the drug problem.

[Related: Alistair Overeem's positive test for PEDs infuriates Dana White]

That brings us to Thiago Silva, the talented UFC light heavyweight who on Saturday will meet Alex Gustafsson in the main event of a nationally televised card on Fuel TV from Stockholm, Sweden.
Silva, 29, will be fighting for the first time since Jan. 1, 2011, when he battered Brandon Vera in a stunningly one-sided bout at UFC 125.Not long after that bout, Silva failed a post-fight urinalysis. It turns out the sample he provided "was not consistent with human urine."
Silva later admitted buying urine online as a means of masking steroid usage, which he said he did because he had an injured back.
There have been very few fighters I know of who have been caught using steroids who haven't attributed it to an injury. Rather than admitting that they were taking steroids to gain a competitive advantage – to get bigger, faster and stronger, as well as because they think so many of their peers are doing so – they turn it into a sob story. Their families, they inevitably say, rely on the money they earn, and given their injuries, the steroids were a necessity in order to keep putting food on the table.
I don't doubt for a second that Silva was injured and was in great pain. But should he be allowed to cheat and to gain an advantage that would make him even more lethal than he would be normally, just because he has financial difficulties? I think not.
The appalling part of this is not that Silva is coming back. He served the time that the Nevada commission gave him for his penalty and he deserves to be able to make a living in his chosen profession.
What is galling, though, is that he comes back with no restrictions and right into a main event. Who knows if he was telling the truth that his steroid usage was simply due to an injury? They all say that.
Since White and UFC chairman Lorenzo Fertitta have so far declined to come up with a comprehensive drug testing policy that includes random, unannounced tests – as NFL and MLB players are subject to as part of their collective bargaining agreements – at least they should create a policy covering those who have already been caught.
If you fail a PED test at any point in your career, you should automatically be subject to random, unannounced testing for the privilege of remaining a UFC fighter.
The UFC should require PED abusers to agree to three random tests a year, plus tests within a week of signing a contract for a fight, one midway through camp and another post-fight.
Even with such thorough testing, though, some fighters will beat it. Still, such a plan will greatly reduce the incidence of PED use and make the sport safer for those who choose to compete while clean.
The policy should also include clear terms for future failed tests. Another positive test should mean a two-year ban from the UFC. One after that should result in a permanent ban.

[Also: Mailbag: Brian Stann trains for UFC bout at home after family tragedy]

Silva is a perfect example of a guy who got off easy. Yes, he paid a heavy fine and, yes, he was suspended for a year. That's a stiff penalty. But when you rob a bank, you go to jail.
It's ludicrous, though, to allow fighters who have abused PEDs to come back as if nothing occurred. Using steroids or other performance enhancing drugs is a significant violation and should be treated accordingly.
The UFC's handling of Silva is galling and shows it still doesn't get the scope or the seriousness of the problem.
What a bullshit ass article; first off this "Main Event" in question is on FuelTV which is barely a cable network, secondly the only reason he is in the main event was because Nog pulled out early. Thirdly its not a title fight which makes it just like any other fight on the card.

I could see someone being upset if it was a title fight but this guy is complaining over nothing. i guess I am too though
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I'm upset that I am not at home, where I have Fuel TV, but I am at my mom's in MS cause I have to go back to the doctor Monday about my ankle and my wife is working in Alabama..

Anyway, I hope Gustafsson wins.. He is undefeated minus the one loss to Phil Davis where Mr. Wonderful used his wrestling to dominate and work into a submission.. Gustafsson says he has been working on his grappling, winning 2 of his last 4 by submission.. I can see him trying to take Silva to the ground, which is Thiago's weakness..

p.s. WAR Brian Stann
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I'm upset that I am not at home, where I have Fuel TV, but I am at my mom's in MS cause I have to go back to the doctor Monday about my ankle and my wife is working in Alabama..

Anyway, I hope Gustafsson wins.. He is undefeated minus the one loss to Phil Davis where Mr. Wonderful used his wrestling to dominate and work into a submission.. Gustafsson says he has been working on his grappling, winning 2 of his last 4 by submission.. I can see him trying to take Silva to the ground, which is Thiago's weakness..

p.s. WAR Brian Stann
... Thiago Silva is actually as good on the ground as he is on the feet. He prefers to stand and bang, tho.
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Card Weight Class Round Time Method Notes


Facebook Featherweight Jason Young vs Eric Wisely
Facebook Welterweight Simeon Thoresen vs Besam Yousef
Facebook Lightweight Reza Madadi vs Yoislandy Izquierdo
Facebook Middleweight Francis Carmont vs Magnus Cedenblad
Facebook Light Heavyweight Cyrille Diabaté vs Tom DeBlass
Facebook Welterweight Papy Abedi vs James Head


Main Bantamweight Brad Pickett vs Damacio Page
Main Welterweight DaMarques Johnson vs John Maguire
Main Featherweight Dennis Siver vs Diego Nunes
Main Welterweight Paulo Thiago vs Siyar Bahadurzada
Main Middleweight Brian Stann vs Alessio Sakara
Main Light Heavyweight Alexander Gustafsson vs Thiago Silva
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Solid looking show for a shitty Fuel card...

Nunes/Silver will probs be FOTN but looking forward to the Stann fight and main event, just disappointed its not the Vera/T Silva rematch b/c I was looking forward to seeing Vera get his ass kicked again.
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I'm torn since I'm a big Thiago Silva fan, but really like the potential Gustaffson has. If he knocks off Silva, I'd like to see him match up with Davis or Bader. I think either of those could be great fights. Siver vs. Nunes should be Fight of the Night in my opinion. Not a bad card at all.
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Sakara had to pull out (family emergency) and has been replaced by Chris Weidmann on 24hrs notice.

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Old 04-14-2012, 01:44 PM   #10
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Some MMA site I was following on Twitter had it on bt I just googled it and theres hardly anything....dunno if its true or not now :S
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I couldn't find anything on it.. That's why I asked..

Either way Stann wins via TKO ref stoppage in the 2nd..
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He has ONE submission victory and TWELVE by strikes..
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show time, feels like agessss since I watched a UFC show
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Yeah it's been like 45 days.. They always take a long "spring break and crank it back up for summer..
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Watching the post fight show, I missed the fights. Chael is pretty good on analysis. Glazer still sucks.
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Look at the main card results on Wiki....

Brad Pitt bt Uncle Fester
Dennis Bergkamp bt Nunes by soccer kick
Paul O Grady bt Osama bin Laden
Lee Murray bt Shakira

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Preliminary card (Facebook)[11]

Featherweight bout: Jason Young vs. Eric Wisely
Young defeated Wisely via unanimous decision (30-28, 29-28, 29-28).
Welterweight bout: Simeon Thoresen vs. Besam Yousef
Thoresen defeated Yousef via submission (rear-naked choke) at 2:36 of round 2.
Lightweight bout: Reza Madadi vs. Yoislandy Izquierdo
Madadi defeated Izquierdo via submission (guillotine choke) at 1:28 of round 2.
Middleweight bout: Francis Carmont vs. Magnus Cedenblad
Carmont defeated Cedenblad via submission (rear-naked choke) at 1:42 of round 2.
Light Heavyweight bout: Cyrille Diabate vs. Tom DeBlass
Diabate defeated DeBlass via majority decision (29-28, 29-28, 28-28).
Welterweight bout: Papy Abedi vs. James Head
Head defeated Abedi via submission (rear-naked choke) at 4:33 of round 1. This bout aired on the Fuel TV broadcast following the Stann vs. Sakara fight.
Main card[11]

Bantamweight bout: Brad Pickett vs. Damacio Page
Pickett defeated Page via submission (rear-naked choke) at 4:05 of round 2.
Welterweight bout: DaMarques Johnson vs. John Maguire
Maguire defeated Johnson via submission (armbar) at 4:40 of round 2.
Featherweight bout: Dennis Siver vs. Diego Nunes
Siver defeated Nunes via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Welterweight bout: Paulo Thiago vs. Siyar Bahadurzada
Bahadurzada defeated Thiago via KO (punches) at 0:42 of round 1.
Middleweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Alessio Sakara
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Gustafsson looked pretty good. He took some hard shots from Thiago and kept trucking. I'd still like to see him against Davis and Bader, but after that, he's a pretty intriguing match up for JBJ. They both have a similar build (although JBJ's reach is still longer) and Gustaffson throws good leg kicks, which would be something Jones and his chicken legs have never really had to deal with.
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Gustafsson looked pretty good. He took some hard shots from Thiago and kept trucking. I'd still like to see him against Davis and Bader, but after that, he's a pretty intriguing match up for JBJ. They both have a similar build (although JBJ's reach is still longer) and Gustaffson throws good leg kicks, which would be something Jones and his chicken legs have never really had to deal with.
It'll be an intriguing match up to see him vs a former LHW champ. Didn't Davis roll him up with an anaconda choke already?
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It'll be an intriguing match up to see him vs a former LHW champ. Didn't Davis roll him up with an anaconda choke already?
that's his only pro loss..
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that's his only pro loss..
There are other matchups that Davis could benefit from. Gustaffesen (however the hell you spell that shit) may need to pine a little longer before he gets that rematch.
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I feel that. I just knocked Davis down a peg after seeing the way Rashad made him his step son. Davis didn't look all that hot against Lil Nog either. Gustaffson seems to have improved a lot and has a good chin which is why I'd like to see how he'd do against a grinder with KO power like Bader and Davis in a rematch.

Then again, I could see Gustaffson fighting someone like Machida or Shogun (because I wouldn't be surprised if Rampage throws another bitch fit that gets his fight with Shogun cancelled) on the same card as Jones/Evans vs. Hendo and then fighting a title fight in December or something.
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I feel that. I just knocked Davis down a peg after seeing the way Rashad made him his step son. Davis didn't look all that hot against Lil Nog either. Gustaffson seems to have improved a lot and has a good chin which is why I'd like to see how he'd do against a grinder with KO power like Bader and Davis in a rematch.

Then again, I could see Gustaffson fighting someone like Machida or Shogun (because I wouldn't be surprised if Rampage throws another bitch fit that gets his fight with Shogun cancelled) on the same card as Jones/Evans vs. Hendo and then fighting a title fight in December or something.
Now we're talking! Davis needs a couple impressive wins to get back on track. Gustafson would be tantalizing against bader seems good, machida/shogun also seems good(but no easy win). I can't say I knocked Davis down a peg...his stand up looked much better against Evans, he was moving more, and his kicks were sharp. Rashad is just way more experienced, and he is shaping up to be the prodigal strategist in the Jackson 5.

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running full speed into it whilst throwing punches probably contributed.
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I do like Thiago Silva, and i like to watch him fight. BUT, i think that vicious ground and pound is his forte. he's known to be a striker, but i never thought of his striking as very good, mainly because his striking is sooo slow. you dont want to get hit by him, but as we saw in this fight, most top tier fighters can elude him - and its not like he can just walk through solid punches (he has a small head and neck). he's 14-3, but his three losses were to the only top tier opponents he's fought.

i hope he does better next time against a top ten opponent. maybe Bader, Phil Davis, Forrest. then on to a tougher opponent like Shogun or Dan Henderson.
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