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View Poll Results: IYO: Should Monday Night RAW go back to 2 hours?
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:51 PM   #1
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IYO: Should Monday Night RAW go back to 2 hours?

In your opinion: Should Monday Night RAW go back to 2 hours?

I will join the discussion later tonight.

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Old 11-07-2012, 07:56 PM   #2
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I don't care. It's rare for me to actually watch Raw these days for it to bother me one way or the other, so if more guys are getting air time for the people who do tune in weekly then that's all gravy.

I did always find 3 hour Raws, even before it became a permanent feature to drag on a lot though.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:49 PM   #3
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Is it the extra hour necessarily, or just the shitty writing?? Go ahead and tell a good story or whatever, but a "scandal" with AJ, Cena and Vickie honestly bores the shit outta me. As Autobahn would say Alan Partridge.gif

The extra hour, if used well, should lay the foundation to start building new talents that are on the radar, so to speak. Wrestlers like Sandow, Kofi, McIntyre (pre-3MB) etc. should get some time to connect more with the fans and GET them to care.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:04 PM   #4
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If the show is captivating from beginning to end, I could care less if it's 2 hours long, 3 hours long or 10 hours long.

They make more money with 3 hours obviously though than with 2 hours. People act like the show got so much worse when it went to 3 hours. Like it was incredible before.
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They probably shouldn't, since they make more money with it being three hours. I do think that it would help the overall product if the show were two hours, though. I also think that they should re-affirm the brand split, since that allowed each show to have more of an identity to it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:00 PM   #6
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I enjoy RAW and have enjoyed RAW for awhile now. I like having more of a show I enjoy to watch.
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No. For it would be a step backwards. A step forwards would be actually utilizing those three hours to build feuds and characters outside of the main events.
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No. For it would be a step backwards. A step forwards would be actually utilizing those three hours to build feuds and characters outside of the main events.
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No. For it would be a step backwards. A step forwards would be actually utilizing those three hours to build feuds and characters outside of the main events.
I know right? Remember when they actually wrote like that back in the day? It's like a lost art nowdays.
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If they are going to carry on with three-hour RAWs, they should have compelling storylines in which I can invest my time and interest.
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If they are going to carry on with three-hour RAWs, they should have compelling storylines in which I can invest my time and interest.
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If they are going to carry on with three-hour RAWs, they should have compelling storylines in which I can invest my time and interest.
Yet you will still watch the show anyway...
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:17 PM   #13
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No mostly because it won't suddenly fix the writing and issues with planning the WWE has been having overall for months.

The biggest benefit of the extra hour has been tag team wrestling while they've lessen on the amount of recaps, useless filler, and media stuff they kept cramming on the early 3 hour RAWs.
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I voted for it going back to two, but there should be an asterisk there.

I've read some of the crowds have been lackluster in the third hour. I do think that's a viable barometer. If the live crowd is suffering burn out, a three hour format might be an issue. I do think quality writing and meaningful storylines and characterization would help, but that's a true statement whether the show is 2 hours, 3 hours, or 10 hours. ()

All that said, it hasn't really been three hours for that long (relatively) so I think devoting more time to the three hour show and seeing if they just need to get through the growing pains (writers, talent, crowds, etc.) is obviously required.
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Really no excuse to have PPV matches with zero to no heat, or throwing matches together last minute.

Really Grinds My Gear when I see random filler matches on PPV. You've got 3 hours of RAW, plus something like 5 or 6 more hours of other shows to actually build up some matches. Use it.
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Lock Jaw is mimicking my thoughts so perfectly right now I feel like there's a chance he's just mocking me.

But really, you don't build main eventers by having them wallow around in a mid-card scene where everyone's just doing random shit and no one is involved in feuds or anything of note because the writers can't be assed to write much outside a main event scene. (A guy like Ryback being the exception to the rule of course.) Another good example of how it's not the extra hour that sucks, it's the writers being lazy assholes.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:32 AM   #17
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1 Hour. Don't need two. Main storylines and matches only, have enough jobber shows each week.
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Make the show runtime 1:45 so you get a full hour and your adverts.
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That being said, Main Event is tremendous still. So organized, so neat and good at showcasing the talent. The matches feel like they are relevant. I wish they could transfer that organization and focus to Raw.
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They could be utilizing that first hour by bringing me William Regal but Vince has such a raging boner for Ryback that its only a dream.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:38 AM   #21
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I'm sick of having to record Raw and watch How I Met your mother later or the other way around. Blatant self interest sways my vote to YES. Need Raw to go back to 9-11 even though they had like 10 matches on Raw Monday which was pretty cool. So, if they use the time wisely enough it'll be a No and I'll have to keep with the shitty recording plan.

If they want a 3rd hour just do a pre-show on WWE.com at 8 with recap and maybe show the dark-matches while people load into the arena. Try to make it feel like its ESPN and Monday Night Football. I thought they were planning to do a pre-show.
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I'm sick of having to record Raw and watch How I Met your mother later or the other way around. Blatant self interest sways my vote to YES. Need Raw to go back to 9-11 even though they had like 10 matches on Raw Monday which was pretty cool. So, if they use the time wisely enough it'll be a No and I'll have to keep with the shitty recording plan.
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I feel like since it moved to 3 hours, we've gotten more great matches from the mid card. And it's really given the tag division time to shine.
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I feel like since it moved to 3 hours, we've gotten more great matches from the mid card. And it's really given the tag division time to shine.
This. Squash matches have pretty much disappeared from the three hour format, and I love it. Off the top of my head, Damien Sandow v. Sheamus, Wade Barrett v. Sheamus, and Dolph Ziggler v. Kofi matches from recent history (all awesome matches) would have never happened they way they did if the show were only two hours.

I also agree with the tag division shining. It's lovely.
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Instead of showcasing compelling storylines, they are interested in getting more ratings.
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Instead of showcasing compelling storylines, they are interested in getting more ratings.
One would think the two went hand in hand.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:58 PM   #28
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:43 AM   #29
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When I watch it the commercials are all taken out, so it's around 2 hours 20 minutes of Raw, I'm not feeling the pain of 3 hours as I never watch it live.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:30 AM   #30
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If they want better ratings, have it start an hour earlier..... little kiddies can't all make it to 11 on a school night.....
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:59 AM   #31
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I voted for off-season. Like others have said, it's the quality of the show, not its length, that is the problem.

But, honestly, a two-month break after Mania would be a great way to cut down on injuries and creative burn-out, and they can also regroup after their big show and get plans together for the entire roster. Have a "season premiere" in June and they can run the annual "big summer program" into Summerslam with a healthy roster and a well-planned story arc.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:35 AM   #32
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I voted for off-season. Like others have said, it's the quality of the show, not its length, that is the problem.

But, honestly, a two-month break after Mania would be a great way to cut down on injuries and creative burn-out, and they can also regroup after their big show and get plans together for the entire roster. Have a "season premiere" in June and they can run the annual "big summer program" into Summerslam with a healthy roster and a well-planned story arc.
I'm not sure if the WWE needs to have an "off-season," but I like the idea of guys being given time off more regularly to rest their nagging injuries, and to prolong the shelf-life of their characters.

Mark Henry's "Hall of Pain" storyline last year gave Big Show and Kane time off, for example, and currently Jack Swagger has been removed from television in storylines. I think these are good moves. If Big Show beats Sheamus at Survivor Series, I don't see why they can't have Sheamus "sell" the loss and disappear until around Royal Rumble time.

Also, NXT is a fantastically booked show. Was just thinking earlier how much better booked Big E. Langston is compared to Ryback. Seth Rollins actually wrestling has been made a big deal since he's not always featured on every show.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:31 AM   #33
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Watch the shit I wanna see on Youtube so makes no difference to me
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:20 PM   #34
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Yes it should especially now with the additions of new programs like Main Event there are enough combined hours of WWE televsion in a week.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:48 PM   #35
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Wrestling must be the only sport/entertainment where the biggest fans/border line obssesives actually wanna see LESS of it
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:07 PM   #36
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Wrestling must be the only sport/entertainment where the biggest fans/border line obssesives actually wanna see LESS of it
To be fair, most of them seem to be saying it solely because it's doing poorly in ratings and need to justify why it's bad.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:36 PM   #37
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I don't think Raw should go back to two hours. I think creative should step up their game. If the WWE is looking to expand its time on TV, it means it's time to grow, and they need people to do that for them, or they need to hire people who can.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:47 PM   #38
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Like I said before, there's a lot of cruiserweights on the roster who don't fit in on the card right now because they aren't realistically fighting for the eventual WWE/World title reign that the rest of the card is. They could easily fill some time by bringing back the cruiserweight division and devoting a segment a week to them.

Not a lot of time spent on promos since most of them shouldn't speak too much. Just a cruiserweight title and a group of athletic, fun to watch guys striving for it like it's their WWE title. Not only does this fill some time with something different from the throwaway, meaningless matches WWE's been tossing out seemingly just to waste time but it also only takes a segment a week to replace one of those meaningless, thrown together PPV matches with a built up, intriguing, lower card cruiserweight title match.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:56 PM   #39
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Tyson Kidd, Justin Gabriel, Sin Cara, Yoshi Tatsu, Hunico, Curt Hawkins, Zack Ryder, Trent Barreta...

Not to mention Evan Bourne when he returns. Plus you've got Mysterio and Christian who are old school cruiserweight guys that can come in and compete with the young ones every once in a while just to spice the division up. Plus most of the NXT roster. They could easily make a must see segment of Raw every week while also giving some glorified jobbers time to actually perform on the main show in a way that isn't just making others look good.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:56 PM   #40
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I pressed no, but I meant to say yes. 3 hours is too long and there are parts of the show that are just so boring that you can't even watch.
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