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Old 07-26-2013, 12:14 AM   #1
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I Don't Get The Love For Christian
I've never been able to get in to Christian the way so many here already have. get that he's a solid worker, he's decent on the mic, and I can see he's got a sizeable fan base. But he'll never be top guy. Just doesn't have the it factor. To me, he is the Jannety to Edge's Michaels.

So, what am I missing here?

I do dig his entrance theme though.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:17 AM   #2
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Christian is one of my favorites, and it really doesn't wake me up at night wondering why you don't like him.

Do you see what I'm saying?
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:18 PM   #3
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Christian is one of my favorites, and it really doesn't wake me up at night wondering why you don't like him.

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I don't lose any sleep at night by knowing you aren't losing any sleep over this and only losing sleep over if JJ Abrams is on or off the new Star Wars movie.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:14 PM   #4
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I don't lose any sleep at night by knowing you aren't losing any sleep over this and only losing sleep over if JJ Abrams is on or off the new Star Wars movie.
Kalyx triaD follows sci-fi/fantasy movie news, yes. You are hilarious for pointing this out in a witty way, thanks.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:18 AM   #5
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I don't get it either. He's no Randy Orton.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:32 AM   #6
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I don't get it either. He's no Val Venis.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:37 AM   #7
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:01 AM   #8
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Don't see what's wrong with it.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:10 AM   #9
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Different strokes for different folks.

I myself don't see what the big deal with Bray Wyatt is or with Brad Maddox for that matter. I cringe every time Maddox opens his mouth on a microphone
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:21 AM   #10
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Different strokes for different folks.

I myself don't see what the big deal with Bray Wyatt is or with Brad Maddox for that matter. I cringe every time Maddox opens his mouth on a microphone
THE BIG DEAL WITH BRAY WYATT IS THAT HE IS AWESOME
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:48 AM   #11
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THE BIG DEAL WITH BRAY WYATT IS THAT HE IS AWESOME


The greater IRS clone has taken the best parts of Waylon Mercy, Raven, and what looked to be where they were going with Hade Vansen and has created a masterpiece.

"Good things happen to those who believe in Bray Wyatt."
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:12 AM   #12
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The greater IRS clone has taken the best parts of Waylon Mercy, Raven, and what looked to be where they were going with Hade Vansen and has created a masterpiece.

"Good things happen to those who believe in Bray Wyatt."
And those who don't join the vultures, like Kane.
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:15 AM   #13
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THE BIG DEAL WITH BRAY WYATT IS THAT HE IS AWESOME
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:11 AM   #14
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I 100% agree. Christian as a face is about as bland and boring as they come. Miz level bad.

Christian as a heel is one of the most entertaining characters around
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:44 AM   #15
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he's a solid worker, he's decent on the mic
You've answered your own question.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:45 AM   #16
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You've answered your own question.
Same could be said for almost any well established upper mid card guy. But most of the others have some thing that sets them apart from the others.
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Same could be said for almost any well established upper mid card guy. But most of the others have some thing that sets them apart from the others.
Attitude Era legend also.
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CHRISTIAN

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Old 07-26-2013, 03:45 AM   #21
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It doesn't help that he's been pushed/depushed so much or that his career has been hamstrung by so many injuries (injuries that WWE never really capitalized on returns with like they have with others). Also, the lightning quck World Heavyweight Championship reigns-and yes, I will include the Edge sympathy reign- and then the subsequent jobbing him out weekly doesn't make him look like he "belong'd" in the main event scene.... even though he was repeatedly getting storyline screwed, that was something that should have happened while he was a face chasing the title, OR, at least, as a heel while he was the champion. Instead, he was booked to look like a whiny puss who couldn't get it done instead of a legit threat- he was a heel nobody wanted to see win it again, and booked to ensure he wouldn't.

He's one of those that, if WWE really wanted to make people give a fuck about him, they could have easily, yet they squander just about any opportunity to do so... be it because "they don't see it" or that someone was pissed about him going to TNA. Even that, though, seems to be shot in the foot by the recent return of Rob Van Dam. Look how much hype, buzz, and fanfaire he got for his return? He got weeks of promotional package, not a surprise return on a 3rd teir show with announcers who sounded less than enthused.

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Old 07-26-2013, 04:29 AM   #22
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Gonna just re-post what I posted in another topic...

Here's the thing with Christian...

His face run as champion on ECW was amazing to me. His promos and the random things he did during his matches to make the heel look silly like the slide between the top two turnbuckles into a kick in the face were awesome little things that he could only do as a face. He seems like he has fun with being a face when he's not asked to carry the company or anything. I like it.

I might have gone with RVD vs ADR for SummerSlam because it's a bigger draw and I don't think ADR is gonna lose to title to anyone at SummerSlame anyway but Christian getting some mic time in a main event feud is a good thing.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:27 AM   #23
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This is pretty much the only reason the World Championship is still around (in my eyes). Guys like Christian deserve to be world champ, but let's face it, with guys like Cena, Orton, Ryback, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar etc, a guy like Christian could never be THE man. Therfore, the world title allows guys to get their name in the history books, without having the company rely on them to be the top guy.
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This is pretty much the only reason the World Championship is still around (in my eyes). Guys like Christian deserve to be world champ, but let's face it, with guys like Cena, Orton, Ryback, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar etc, a guy like Christian could never be THE man. Therfore, the world title allows guys to get their name in the history books, without having the company rely on them to be the top guy.
Agree.

The World title has been well acting as the "test" title for potential new stars or as a way to reward the non-mega stars for their hard work.
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That said... I wanna see Christian with the big gold belt again.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:32 AM   #26
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:22 PM   #27
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he annoys me because he looks awful. He is pretty good however, bit bland as a face but usually great as a heel
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:25 PM   #28
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I always found him bland as a face. (Like Orton)
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:07 PM   #29
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I'm hoping Christian goes heel again and teams up with AJ and Big E Langston.

So we can finally get a proper "reign of terror" from the two men and a chick trio. Thought we were gonna get one with Christian/Trish/Tomko, but that never happened. Then I thought we were gonna get what that should have been with Dolph/AJ/Big E, but they just jobbed a lot and then broke up.

So I say finally do the reign of terror, with the two helping Xtian keep onto the title by any means necessary. He would make a great "JBL-style" champ (eg, holds onto it for a good length, but always wins via cheap tactics and outside help).
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:21 PM   #30
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Christian is fine. Would seem like they want to push him which is nice since I could always use a sustained push to help me determine if I like him more than the average midcard guy.
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:28 PM   #31
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I've always liked Christian. I think I liked him the most from when he cut his hair to when he left the WWE. Christian during that time was amazing and in my opinion, it's the best he's ever been.

Since his return from TNA, he's been different. I don't know what TNA did to him, but since he returned from TNA, he's not been "Christian". Watching ECW and seeing him return, I just felt like something had changed and he wasn't the same guy he was before he left for TNA. Also, I've mentioned it before, but TNA seems to have given him some kind of jaundice. Before he left, he was white, but when he returned to the WWE and since then, he's been somewhat yellow.

His last heel run was alright, but the "One More Match" thing was pretty annoying and just didn't make me care about him at all. To me, that was probably his worst run as a heel. He's been so much better than that in the past.

Right now though, I like Christian. I wouldn't say I love him, but he's alright. I don't think turning him heel will solve everything, though a heel turn would be interesting but only without him bitching about one more match. I think if he remains as a face, giving him a title would help. Perhaps the United States Championship.

In fact, having Christian as United States Champion could maybe lead to him being a heel, with him proclaiming that a Canadian is America's best wrestler. Play on the old fashioned "Canadian heel pisses off Americans" thing.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:40 PM   #32
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Christian circa 2005 made me a mark. The guy was on fire for pretty much the entire year. I still think the WWE missed a major opportunity there. His alliance with Tyson Tomko and Trish Stratus was solid gold. As a cheesy heel who believed in himself far more than even his allies did, there was an endearing quality behind his character that helped him appeal to people -- hell, he was just so entertaining.

Since he's returned, a healthy Christian has been one of the most consistently good in-ring performers there is. As a face, yeah he's bland, but so few guys are as solid at doing it as he is. I find his heel character is always generally more credible, but it seems to be at odds with the face character he portrayed essentially since returning in ECW.

Christian is consistent in terms of ring work, but not in character. As a heel, he'll do anything to get ahead. Smart. As a face, he'll fight valiantly and fairly. Where's the link? I think the most valuable Christian would be one that channeled his friend, Eddie Guerrero. A resilient and talented babyface who realizes he is undersized, is getting beat-up and that he CAN'T SPEAR ANYONE! OK, maybe save the Spear for matches with Rey Mysterio, Seth Rollins or someone small enough to make it look like the physics work.

I think Christian's heel run was ruined by Daniel Bryan becoming such an entertaining and wormy heel. There was no need for Christian's "ONE MORE MATCH!" character. When he returned as a face, I quite enjoyed his "change of heart," but his Intercontinental Title run was cut short because they wanted The Miz to do something.

I'd love to see Christian challenge for the World Heavyweight Title. Fuck it, put the title on him. Del Rio will get other runs because he is awesome. Christian winning the championship by pinfall, cleanly, would give him that little extra credibility boost. Then it can be a Triple Threat between Christian, Del Rio and Ziggler. Christian sneaks the victory out there by capitalizing on a Zig Zag and Christian slowly teases a heel turn. At Battleground, Christian and Ziggler have a one-on-one match, and there Christian has Big E. Langston help him out, hiring Langston to be his new "Problem Solver." A Christian heel turn with the World Heavyweight Title is complete. Then it's Hell in a Cell, where Langston can't help Christian. Ziggler wins the title there and Christian throws a temper tantrum, like we all know he is good at.

As a face, a Cesaro vs. Christian feud would be pretty brilliant, too. Cesaro is the young, strong guy, and Christian is the cheeky, cagey veteran.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:12 PM   #33
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As TPWW's #1 Peep, I agree with all the positive things said about Christian in this thread. To the haters, FUCK YOU
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:37 AM   #34
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I don't care for Christian either
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:45 AM   #35
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I get the love for Christian.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:28 AM   #36
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I understand and acknowledge the love for Christian. I don't expect him to rise to the level of Hulk Hogan or John Cena. He is one of the finest in-ring performers in the business who deserves to become the WWE Champion (and not the secondary World Heavyweight Champion).
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Old 07-27-2013, 03:58 AM   #37
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What Noid said.

I like the never-say-die Christian because he is booked to win some, lose some unlike never-say-die John Cena, whom I also like but am not as intrigued with due to the win most, lose a few formula.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:28 AM   #38
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I think he is an excellent worker and is very solid on the mic, I just find him rather bland at the moment character wise. He has proven over the years that he can be entertaining in different roles.

Perhaps a title win at Summerslam and a heel turn and feud with Ziggler would be the answer to freshen him up (at least in my eyes)
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Just a thought; isn't almost everybody more interesting as a heel?

They restrict baby face characters to happy-go-lucky, kid-friendly, nice guy characters to the point where there is little to distinguish one from another.
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Just a thought; isn't almost everybody more interesting as a heel?

They restrict baby face characters to happy-go-lucky, kid-friendly, nice guy characters to the point where there is little to distinguish one from another.
This is very true about current day WWE.

I like my characters with many layers, like a onion.
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