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Old 09-19-2004, 10:23 PM   #1
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Rate The Wrestler - Day 29 - Vader
Once again, here we are, as the legendary Andre The Giant scored a 80, Which keeps him out of the Top 10, But a great effect for a man not known for his Wrestling Ability

Today Wrestler Is Big Van Vader

Day 1: Bret Hart (96)
Day 2: Chris Jericho (91)
Day 3: Rob Van Dam (78)
Day 4: Diamond Dallas Page (80)
Day 5: Low Ki (73)
Day 6: A.J Styles (89)
Day 7 : Rey Mysterio Jr. (81)
Day 8: Owen Hart (95)
Day 9: Ultimo Dragon (84)
Day 10: Raven (87)
Day 11: "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (84)
Day 12: The Hurricane (76)
Day 13: Brian Pillman (92)
Day 14: John Bradshaw Leyfield (46)
Day 15: Taz (82)
Day 16: Bob "Hardcore" Holly (34)
Day 17: Christian (83)
Day 18: Ric Flair (87)
Day 19: Jeff Jarrett (65)
Day 20: Shawn Michaels (92)
Day 21: Ricky "Dragon" Steamboat (90)
Day 22: Kevin Nash (61)
Day 23: Jushin Lyger (88)
Day 24: Brock Lesnar (78)
Day 25: Sting (91)
Day 26: Lex Luger (55)
Day 27: Curt "Mr. Perfect" Henning (91)
Day 28: Andre The Giant (80)

Current Top 10 Leaderboard
1.Bret Hart (96)
2. Owen Hart (95)
3. Brian Pillman, Shawn Michaels (92)
4. Chris Jericho, Sting, Curt Henning (91)
5. Ricky Steamboat (90)
6. AJ Styles (89)
7. Jushin Lyger (88)
8. Ric Flair, Raven (87)
9. Ultimo Dragon, British Bulldog (84)
10. Christian (83)

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Old 09-19-2004, 10:28 PM   #2
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I'll give Vader a 7, it's a shame he wasn't a few years younger, cause he would have been awesome in the Attitude-2000 era.
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Old 09-19-2004, 10:38 PM   #4
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Old 09-19-2004, 11:11 PM   #5
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Dang. I'm going to have to abstain from voting this day too. Unfortunately I only really got to see Vader in the WWE. Which isn't really a good thing to judge him by.

I've heard great things about him when he was in WCW and my dad claims that some of the best matches he's seen involved Vader. (Yes, my dad watches wrestling. And his dad before him and.... uhhh... that's all I know)
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Old 09-19-2004, 11:14 PM   #6
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Old 09-20-2004, 12:02 AM   #7
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8.7, one of the best big-man wrestlers ever IMO
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Old 09-20-2004, 12:13 AM   #8
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Old 09-20-2004, 04:04 PM   #9
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Old 09-20-2004, 12:45 AM   #10
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Vader rules all, so 8.5.

Also, HeartBreakKid2k, Kane makes is a better big man than either Vader or Brock...but Vader still rules).
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:12 AM   #11
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Vader rules all, so 8.5.

Also, HeartBreakKid2k, Kane makes is a better big man than either Vader or Brock...but Vader still rules).
Meh, I've never really been big on Kane honestly. Don't know why. Plus I'm bias towards Brock. You may be right, but I always enjoyed both Brock and Vader more the Kane. Glad you mentioned him though
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:19 AM   #12
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Meh, I've never really been big on Kane honestly. Don't know why. Plus I'm bias towards Brock. You may be right, but I always enjoyed both Brock and Vader more the Kane. Glad you mentioned him though
Mike Awesome wasn't bad either
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:21 AM   #13
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Mike Awesome wasn't bad either
Very True, but he kind of fell off since going to WCW. Mostly his character died, but that wasn't his fault. His in ring skills seemed to diminish during this time too however. I love him in ECW though, and his earlier stuff in Japan.
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Old 09-20-2004, 02:21 AM   #14
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Meh, I've never really been big on Kane honestly. Don't know why. Plus I'm bias towards Brock. You may be right, but I always enjoyed both Brock and Vader more the Kane. Glad you mentioned him though
Shut up, you're wrong.

And Mike Awesome kinda sucks, who ever said that. All he ever did was powerbombs, and that gets old, plus he wasn't that big when talking about bigmen. Awesome was just big compared to everyone in ECW. And it is easy to look big when the only other big guys are Bam Bam, Sal, and Rhino.
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Old 09-20-2004, 03:31 AM   #15
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Shut up, you're wrong.

And Mike Awesome kinda sucks, who ever said that. All he ever did was powerbombs, and that gets old, plus he wasn't that big when talking about bigmen. Awesome was just big compared to everyone in ECW. And it is easy to look big when the only other big guys are Bam Bam, Sal, and Rhino.
Just Powerbombs? I remember seeing, Springboard Clothlines and Plauchas to the Outside, As well as Springboard Shoulder blocks, A Top Rope Splash...He was very agile...I Respect you as a poster, but it seems you sorta missed out on some of his great ECW and decent WCW Work
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Old 09-20-2004, 03:34 AM   #16
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:19 AM   #17
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Old 09-20-2004, 02:43 AM   #18
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I love Vader.
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Old 09-20-2004, 03:35 AM   #19
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Old 09-20-2004, 04:06 AM   #20
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Rating for Vader

Favoritism: 10
Wrestling: 8
Charisma/Mic Skills: 7
Entertainment: 9

Final Rating: 8.5
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Just A Note, When It comes to Overness, I basically do it at there max point and not how that dropped over the years, If that was the case, Vader would of been a 7 there

Overness:9 (He Was proberly WCW biggest Heel, I know that can be debated with him and Flair, but this guy was more feared then Flair)
Wrestling Ability: 7 (He Was Better then most big men, and a great Brawler, but not most past that in my mind)
Charisma: N/A (I can't Remember his Promos, I think he had a manager to speak for him most of the time)
Character(s): 10 (He played The Monster Roll well, Infact, he played it Perfectly)
Look: 8.5 (He Was a Monster and he looked like a Monster)
Potential: 7 (Not Much Left, Has the Potential to always be signed by TNA and pushed as the Champino, well Maybe)
Influence: 8 (I feel this guy paved the Way for Monster Heels for today)
Finisher: 10 (The Best Powerbomb....Ever!)
Childhood Opinion: N/A (I Hated The Guy...Because He scared me and beat the crap out of Sting alot of times. Which means he did his job, however I can give him anything out of fairness, since as a Kid, I cheered the faces and Boo'ed The heels regardless)
Current Opinion: 9 (I realized How great he was when I was a Kid and for this, He get's a 9)

Overall: 8.6
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Old 09-20-2004, 05:25 AM   #22
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Vader was an amazing athlete in the ring. He could do moonsaults and land on his feet. He could play a heel monster perfectly.

He gets an 8 from me
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Old 09-20-2004, 07:32 AM   #23
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he was menacing, and fairly good in ring ability

8
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Old 09-20-2004, 08:45 AM   #24
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if voting is still bein accepted I give Vader an 8 cause overall he was a very good big man
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Old 09-20-2004, 09:15 AM   #25
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One of the best ever.
Im starting a new rating judgment for me.

WCW-10,He was WCW top heel when Flair left and when Flair came back he was still the top heel. He was the most fear man in wrestling. His powerbombs were brutal(in a good way). The guy had so many classics for a man his size. He had more classic matches than Taker,Kane,Brock and Sid put together. He is the number one reason why WCW stayed in business after Flair left(who else Sting was going to fight).

WWF-8.5,Sure his WWF days were number and it had nothing on his WCW days but it still were good. He was WWF top heel in 96. In 97,he was the most underrated wrestler in the WWF because the Hart Foundation,Austin,Foley,Taker,and HBK took up most of the time. I remember when everybody fear him. He was suppose to win the title but HBK through a fit. His matches were still good but not great.

Japan-10,I seen Vader wrestle in Japan many of times and every match were great(the matches I've seen). He had a impact on Japan for sure.

I won't count TNA and WXO because he only appear like two times. Speaking of TNA, maybe Vader should challenge Jarrett and win the title.

His moonsaults were sweet.

Overall-9.5

By the way,Kane have nothing on Vader,Taker,Sid,Brock,Nash/Diesel,Andre,and Show when it comes to best big men ever.
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Never really been a fan a Vader, but he wasn't terrible, so 6.
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:25 AM   #27
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Personally I thought Vader was crap. He shouldn't be regarded as being more talented than he was just because of his size. 6
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:57 AM   #28
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Personally I thought Vader was crap. He shouldn't be regarded as being more talented than he was just because of his size. 6
???
Vader made Hulk Hogan look like The Rock in the ring. When a guy can do that,he is great. Only a certain number of guys made Hogan look like a million bucks,Savage,Vader and Flair,that's it.

His size did'nt matter, the man skills were better than anybody in the WWE and TNA today.
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Old 09-20-2004, 02:48 PM   #29
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Vader made Hulk Hogan look like The Rock in the ring. When a guy can do that,he is great. Only a certain number of guys made Hogan look like a million bucks,Savage,Vader and Flair,that's it.

His size did'nt matter, the man skills were better than anybody in the WWE and TNA today.
Dude, Vader is good, but he's not that good...So Just lay off your comments, argueing everything, this thread is for voting and not argueing about every little thing....if this keeps up I may consider not counting votes...It's not like this is going to be a official released document from WWE or some real life fed as a Official list of the best Wrestlers ever....nor will I doubt once it's finished, that it would go on the site somewhere *crosses fingers and hopes I'm wrong*

Also...I don't like some of the Rating people gave other people, but it's all about Preference, not everyone is going to think the same way about wrestlers as you...If you think Luger is gold, good for you, I'm not taking that away from you, I never really saw nothing out of the oridinary about him...but if you did, kick ass...I mean, hell if someone said Jericho was crap, I would be pissed but I didn't argue about it
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^^LOL, what is with you and your "This guy was better then anybody else in the WWE today." You said that with Luger and it is a joke. You seriously have to be kidding me. You're telling me Vader was/is better then Angle, just as one example?


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^^LOL, what is with you and your "This guy was better then anybody else in the WWE today." You said that with Luger and it is a joke. You seriously have to be kidding me. You're telling me Vader was/is better then Angle, just as one example?


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He can probably keep up with Angle because Angle got a new style. I give you Benoit as far as in-ring skills concern. Eddie have had alot of dull matches this year than good ones,Eddie been boring at times. Jericho had alot of ok matches,his matches with Edge and Orton was long but nothing great.Vader would of made Orton and Edge look like real threats. Vader knew how to make a match that means nothing and make them into something.

Forget my comments,since I never know what am talking about.
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Old 09-20-2004, 08:40 PM   #32
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He can probably keep up with Angle because Angle got a new style.
That still doesn't mean he is good enough to carry Angle's jock strap - ever.

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That is probably for the best.
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That still doesn't mean he is good enough to carry Angle's jock strap - ever.
Jeez...
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What matches has Eddie been in this year that have been boring? He even made JBL look good so I don't know where that statement has come from.
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Old 09-20-2004, 05:17 PM   #37
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Also, I'd say Vader is just as good as Angle supposedly is.

Vader could indeed WRESTLE (in the real meaning of the word, not "pro" style), and could put on a show, could take to the air, brawl & actually beat the fucking shit out of you (aka shoot) if needed. One of the more underrated guys out there, mostly due to marks who only appreciate 5-10 "wrestlers"
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