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Old 10-30-2004, 12:07 AM   #1
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Released today by the WWF; World Wildlife Fund

Contact: Phil Kavits, 202-778-9540, 301-580-5485/202-294-8006 (cell), 703-435-0975 (home), Michael Ross, 202-778-9565, 202-841-1749 (cell), both of the World Wildlife Fund

News Advisory:

WHAT: WWF, the global conservation organization, serves papers seeking a damage judgment that will bring a fair and final conclusion to years of litigation with World Wrestling Entertainment.

WHEN: Documents were served Friday, Oct. 29, 2004.

WHERE: The case will be determined by the British High Courts.

WHY: The case stems from the widespread use and promotion of the initials WWF in connection with wrestling events and products in a repeated breach of a longstanding agreement with the conservation organization, which had used the moniker since its inception in 1961. In 2002, a British Court ordered the wrestlers to stop violating the agreement. The wrestlers subsequently renamed themselves WWE. Public confusion resulting from the misuse of the name persists, especially in the United States, where the organization is forced to couple the global WWF name with World Wildlife Fund, to clarify its meaning.

In this phase of the case, the court will assess damages against the wrestlers for repeatedly violating a legally binding agreement over the use of our initials and causing the resulting difficulties and damages to WWF. Guided by British law and previous cases, the claim to assist the court in determining fair damages by estimating the revenue WWF might have received had the wrestlers legally licensed the initials from WWF instead of simply taking them. The ultimate dispensation of the case may still be years away.

WHO: Edwin Coe LLC represents WWF.

Media Contacts: Phil Kavits, 202-778-9509 (office); 301-580- 5485/202-294-8006 (mobile); 703-435-0975 (home) -- Michael Ross, 202-778-9565 (office); 202-841-1749 (mobile).

NOTES: WWF officials express hope that, with the "name issue" decided and the question of damages now in the hands of the court, the inflammatory rhetoric that characterized earlier parts of the case can be avoided. "The time has come to put the battle behind us and let both organizations return their full focus to what they do best," says Philip B. Kavits, WWF's vice president of Communications. "We want the world to know that WWF stands for one thing and one thing only, action to save our living planet. When the costs, distractions and confusion of the case come to an end, we'll be free to again devote our full attention and resources to producing the conservation progress that WWF is known for."

Known in the United States as World Wildlife Fund and recognized worldwide by its panda logo, WWF leads international efforts to protect endangered species and their habitats and to conserve the diversity of life on Earth. Now in its fifth decade, WWF, the global conservation organization, works in more than 100 countries around the world.

This news release and associated material can be found on http://www.worldwildlife.org

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Shit, now we're gonna get stuck with the Bankrupt Panda Hating Wrestling Association.

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Old 10-30-2004, 12:15 AM   #2
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Old 10-30-2004, 12:32 AM   #3
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Its part of the same lawsuit, now they just want damages.

People who talk bad about the Fund for suing the WWE really dont understand the issues.

Vince violated the agreement, so he may have to pay. Its as simple as that.
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Old 10-30-2004, 12:46 AM   #4
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Its part of the same lawsuit, now they just want damages.

People who talk bad about the Fund for suing the WWE really dont understand the issues.

Vince violated the agreement, so he may have to pay. Its as simple as that.
You are gay.
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Old 10-31-2004, 01:53 AM   #5
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Old 10-31-2004, 02:46 AM   #6
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Old 10-30-2004, 01:36 AM   #7
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Its part of the same lawsuit, now they just want damages.

People who talk bad about the Fund for suing the WWE really dont understand the issues.

Vince violated the agreement, so he may have to pay. Its as simple as that.
See, I don't give a shit if the falcons aren't being treated kindly at zoos. I want to see some dude get put through a table. I don't wanna pretend to care about the issues. In this case, I only care aboot me, and those who agree with me.
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Old 10-30-2004, 07:53 PM   #8
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See, I don't give a shit if the falcons aren't being treated kindly at zoos. I want to see some dude get put through a table. I don't wanna pretend to care about the issues. In this case, I only care aboot me, and those who agree with me.
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Old 10-30-2004, 09:08 PM   #9
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See, I don't give a shit if the falcons aren't being treated kindly at zoos. I want to see some dude get put through a table. I don't wanna pretend to care about the issues. In this case, I only care aboot me, and those who agree with me.
I agree completely! And I think it's BS that they come to collect only after the World Wrestling Federation became more of a popular name than their World Wildlife Fund company. And I gotta ask, did you misspell, or is that "aboot" directed at CyNick because he is Canadian?
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Old 10-30-2004, 09:52 AM   #10
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Its part of the same lawsuit, now they just want damages.

People who talk bad about the Fund for suing the WWE really dont understand the issues.

Vince violated the agreement, so he may have to pay. Its as simple as that.
Yeah, "GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!"

I still fail to see how Vince's use of the initials deprived the Wildlife Fund of any money. And I have yet to be answered on the question of why the Fund made such a stink about having the right to the WWF.com domain, yet to this day it's the home of the Web Wrestling Forums.
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Old 10-30-2004, 12:32 AM   #11
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:58 PM   #12
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Old 10-30-2004, 04:11 AM   #13
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Yeah... WWF has one point, but dammit, stop repeatedly doing this over and over again. They changed the fucking initials... stop this "continued confusion exists." Like that's wrestling's fault... they've done everything they could.

Yeah, WWE violated the agreement, but if the WWF really cared, they would have raised this issue a long time ago instead of waiting until the WWFE got popular. It's hypocrisy.
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:02 AM   #14
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Yeah... WWF has one point, but dammit, stop repeatedly doing this over and over again. They changed the fucking initials... stop this "continued confusion exists." Like that's wrestling's fault... they've done everything they could.

Yeah, WWE violated the agreement, but if the WWF really cared, they would have raised this issue a long time ago instead of waiting until the WWFE got popular. It's hypocrisy.
Basically. This is just ridiculous...the names have been changed, the stupid scratch logos and references to "The WWF" have been blanked out of old material (which is why we won't see a whole lot of Attitude-era WWE footage anymore)...what more do these assholes want?

This is what I was trying to say long ago, and cockgobblers on the side of "logic" were trying to run me into the ground for it.

Screw that. This is bullshit.
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Old 10-30-2004, 01:14 PM   #15
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Old 10-30-2004, 04:36 AM   #16
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It wouldn't piss me off so much if they would come up with something besides "Name Confusion". What the fuck do they want the WWE to do? They changed their damn name. They blur out the WWF scratch logo. The bleep out the "F" in "WWF" on TV. They even sometimes bleep out the word "federation". There is not one damn thing the WWE can do other than COMPLETELY change their name to something not having to consecutive W's.

So I'll say what I said then: Fuck the pandas, screw the dolphins, and to hell with the whales.

There is a difference between taking care of some legal issues and just plain being an asshole.
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Old 10-30-2004, 06:54 AM   #17
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Why the hell didn't they seek damages earlier like around the time of the court order? It's like they're trying to piss people off.
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Old 10-30-2004, 10:05 AM   #18
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Yeah, we ALL know that people get a wildlife fund confused with a wrestling organiazation...

I swear to God, I will be fucking, FUCKING pissed if they make them blur out the block WWF logo... The scratch logo on DVDs and shit blurred out is bad enough...
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Old 11-01-2004, 07:38 AM   #19
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Yeah, we ALL know that people get a wildlife fund confused with a wrestling organiazation...

I swear to God, I will be fucking, FUCKING pissed if they make them blur out the block WWF logo... The scratch logo on DVDs and shit blurred out is bad enough...
If you look at re-released DVDs/videos, "Tagged Classics I beleive they're called, they don't use the block WWF logo anymore.

They use the block WWE logo aka the Word Life logo



Look by the word "IN" by Nash's head.

John Cena's gonna suffer now.

And I know the WWF is within their legal right to sue and claim, but shouldn't they have done it about 2 years ago when the World Wrestling Federation became World Wrestling Entertainment?

Hell, save the aggro, Vince should just rename the company WCW. It's going that way anyway.

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Why the hell didn't they seek damages earlier like around the time of the court order? It's like they're trying to piss people off.
yea thats all they do is piss people off, a bunch of fagg hippys, who wonder around blameing the USA for all there problems. lets hope the judge only gives them 1 buck and tells them where to stick it.
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Old 10-30-2004, 04:26 PM   #21
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You people are so ignorant when it comes to this issue it gets to a point where I cant even get through reading half the crap that gets posted.

The lawsuit is based on the WWF claiming damages during the time the WWE was using the initials WWF.

I dont know if there was any confusion, but in theory the WWF could have lost out on donations and support from people assuming that two companies with the same initials were somehow connected. Perhaps people looked at what Vince was doing on TV and thought "I dont want to support that" so they stayed away from the Fund, again thinking they were connected.

I'm not saying I think that happened a lot, but in theory its possible, and its not that far fetched to see how the Fund could sue Vince.

And, since Vince SIGNED A MOTHER FUCKING GOD DAMN CONTRACT, the Fund has every RIGHT to sue and then claim damages.

I swear I could explain this to 3 year olds and they would comprehend it more than you guys.

Stop being marks and try to use actual facts to base an arguement aorund, instead of talking out of your collective asses.
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You people are so ignorant when it comes to this issue it gets to a point where I cant even get through reading half the crap that gets posted.

The lawsuit is based on the WWF claiming damages during the time the WWE was using the initials WWF.

I dont know if there was any confusion, but in theory the WWF could have lost out on donations and support from people assuming that two companies with the same initials were somehow connected. Perhaps people looked at what Vince was doing on TV and thought "I dont want to support that" so they stayed away from the Fund, again thinking they were connected.

I'm not saying I think that happened a lot, but in theory its possible, and its not that far fetched to see how the Fund could sue Vince.

And, since Vince SIGNED A MOTHER FUCKING GOD DAMN CONTRACT, the Fund has every RIGHT to sue and then claim damages.

I swear I could explain this to 3 year olds and they would comprehend it more than you guys.

Stop being marks and try to use actual facts to base an arguement aorund, instead of talking out of your collective asses.
If they can produce people who made donations to Vince's organizations when they were trying to save wildlife, then by all means, WWE should pay up.
But the fact is. has anyone ever heard of any real confusion betwen large men beating on each other and engangered species? It seems to me that the confusion they keep referring to likely never went past "Hey man how about that WWF?" "Oh yeah I love wrestling." "No I mean the World Wildlife Fund." "Oh. Never heard of it."
Yes, Vince signed a contract. Yes, the Fund had every legal right to the WWF initials. Yes, Vince and Co. should have had to change the initials, probably long before they actially did. And yes, the Fund has every legal right to sue for damages. And now it's their business to prove that they were damaged. I'd be very interested to see how they intend to do that. Just because they're within their legal rights doesn't mean that they aren't using this situation to try to a) suck money from WWE, b) be publicity whores, and c) cover up the fact that they're steamingly jealous that guys in tights rolling around on canvas gets a lot more attention than their tree-hugging activities ever will. And btw, I didn't adopt this stance towards the Fund until the tantrum they threw when changing WWF to WWE "wasn't a substantial enough change" for their taste.
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Old 10-30-2004, 07:45 PM   #24
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If they can produce people who made donations to Vince's organizations when they were trying to save wildlife, then by all means, WWE should pay up.
But the fact is. has anyone ever heard of any real confusion betwen large men beating on each other and engangered species? It seems to me that the confusion they keep referring to likely never went past "Hey man how about that WWF?" "Oh yeah I love wrestling." "No I mean the World Wildlife Fund." "Oh. Never heard of it."
Yes, Vince signed a contract. Yes, the Fund had every legal right to the WWF initials. Yes, Vince and Co. should have had to change the initials, probably long before they actially did. And yes, the Fund has every legal right to sue for damages. And now it's their business to prove that they were damaged. I'd be very interested to see how they intend to do that. Just because they're within their legal rights doesn't mean that they aren't using this situation to try to a) suck money from WWE, b) be publicity whores, and c) cover up the fact that they're steamingly jealous that guys in tights rolling around on canvas gets a lot more attention than their tree-hugging activities ever will. And btw, I didn't adopt this stance towards the Fund until the tantrum they threw when changing WWF to WWE "wasn't a substantial enough change" for their taste.
Thats because you're a mark.

The fact that they had the same initials is enough to create confusion. Whether it actaully had an impact is for courts to decide, you or I dont have the information to say one way or the other.

And its not about people making donations to Vince when they were trying to give money to the Fund (which is a rediculous statement BTW). The point is when you share company initials there can be confusion in the marketplace. A person looking to donate money may hear about the WWF (wrestling) and hear about them promoting gun violence, satanic rituals, abuse towards women and promoting it all to kids, and say I dont want to support that. Instead I'll donate my money elsewhere rather than giving it to the Fund (who I assume is related to the WWF wrestling group).

I dont know how you prove that eaxctly, but again, in theory its at least plausible.

This is business, if Vince had an agreement with someone and they tried to slap him in the face with it, you better believe he'd have his lawyers all over them. I mean he's got a case going against Jakks and THQ, does that make Vince a media whore just because he feels like he was wronged?

Maybe if Vince wasn't such a stubborn person, they could have avoided this whole thing with the Fund, but he didnt, and now he's continuing to pay for it. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for the guy in this situation. He created the problem, so he should be accountable for any and all problems that arise from it.
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You people are so ignorant when it comes to this issue it gets to a point where I cant even get through reading half the crap that gets posted.

The lawsuit is based on the WWF claiming damages during the time the WWE was using the initials WWF.

I dont know if there was any confusion, but in theory the WWF could have lost out on donations and support from people assuming that two companies with the same initials were somehow connected. Perhaps people looked at what Vince was doing on TV and thought "I dont want to support that" so they stayed away from the Fund, again thinking they were connected.

I'm not saying I think that happened a lot, but in theory its possible, and its not that far fetched to see how the Fund could sue Vince.

And, since Vince SIGNED A MOTHER FUCKING GOD DAMN CONTRACT, the Fund has every RIGHT to sue and then claim damages.

I swear I could explain this to 3 year olds and they would comprehend it more than you guys.

Stop being marks and try to use actual facts to base an arguement aorund, instead of talking out of your collective asses.

You're right, IMO. The WWF wouldn't sue if they didn't have a reason to. If they can't prove damages done to them by the WWE back when they were the World Wrestling Federation, they wouldn't be able to win a case. If the WWE have done no damage to WWF, then they will probably win the case. I don't think any of us is in position to no what has been done to either organisation.

And take for example the SmackDown! Your Vote thing going around. If thta was happening back in the time the WWE was the WWF, then it would be quite easy to get confused. If a wrestling company uses its stance in society to encourage voting, who says they wouldn't try to help endangered animals?
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Hey, WWE is an animal loving organization.

Look at Triple H, aka the the Gonzo Monkey. Or the Big Show, aka Lipidus Humongous.

Both organizations are doing their part for the animals, so they should just get along.
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For the love of god, and all that is holy, say it ain't so! "Now in its fifth decade..." Fuck the WWF. Vince's company has been around for longer than the panda express. The Wold Wide Wresteling Federation was around before the wildlife fund.
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For the love of god, and all that is holy, say it ain't so! "Now in its fifth decade..." Fuck the WWF. Vince's company has been around for longer than the panda express. The Wold Wide Wresteling Federation was around before the wildlife fund.


If the World Wrestling Federation had been around longer than the World Wildlife Fund then guess what, BVince would probably have had more of a stake in the name, however, regardless of the WWWF (different initial you will note), the Fund has been around longer than the Federation.
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My issue is that they didn't seek damages at a time when it would have been considered relevant and appropriate. It's been well over a year since the name change and NOW out of the blue they're looking for cash. "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark."
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My issue is that they didn't seek damages at a time when it would have been considered relevant and appropriate. It's been well over a year since the name change and NOW out of the blue they're looking for cash. "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark."
But for not supporting the WWF in this issue, you're a mark. Vince signed a contract and everything.
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Yes legally the WWF has every right to sue the WWE, but hasn't it gone too far now?If things were the other way around i know Vince would sue the asses off the other person, but that's not the point. It's clear to me that the WWF are just trying to get as much money as they can-while they can, just like any other company would. Which makes them no better than Vince IMO.

I don't care what could've happened 'in theory', what's actually happened should be what we are looking at here.

And by the way, i'm by no means a 'mark'.
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Yes legally the WWF has every right to sue the WWE, but hasn't it gone too far now?If things were the other way around i know Vince would sue the asses off the other person, but that's not the point. It's clear to me that the WWF are just trying to get as much money as they can-while they can, just like any other company would. Which makes them no better than Vince IMO.

I don't care what could've happened 'in theory', what's actually happened should be what we are looking at here.

And by the way, i'm by no means a 'mark'.
That's a fair statement, and the World Wildlife Fund is a non-profit organisation, so it wouldn't surprise me that they would try and milk a cow dry before they turn it into beef.

The WWF MAY have had damages done to them by the (then) World Wrestling Federation. If the World Wildlife Fund can prove these damages, I think the WWE should pay them for it. If there is no legitamacy to their claims, then the WWE will be able to walk away with all their money.
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When we look at the amount of lawsuits that can be levied by anyone ON anyone for just about anything these days, I'm not surprised that this happened.

However, it's equally ignorant to call other people "marks" because they don't agree with you 100%.

First, let me just say that no one is in any way saying that we should revolt by shitting on the situation with enviroment. Some groups actually do sincerly care about the wildlife, and more power to them for actually caring. Kudos to them.

With that being said, and being said that I've been hearing all about this situation since 2000, the World Wildlife Fund is turning out to NOT be one of those people who really care about the wildlife, but about the almighty dollar. The WWE has done whatever they could, I would agree, to end this situation with the WWF. But the WWF still pursist in getting their money.

Now I'm not going to say that Vince shouldn't pay up if there were damages financially, but can we look at this realistically for a minute, please?

For one, this could've been made in the first lawsuit, not two years AFTER that lawsuit was won. It could've been included in it.

Secondly, the timing of this, I agree, is severly subject to controversy, no matter HOW you try to slice it. Bottom line is that they pick NOW to do this instead of earlier, when they were perfectally able to get their money when the WWE changed their name, and if Vince didn't pay, they should've filed this two MONTHS after it happened, not after two and a half years.

Third, if they can get away with actually filing this lawsuit NOW and still be able to get their full asking sum (which I doubt they will get because they waited this long to do anything about it at ALL), imagine how else they could get money. Would they be able to sue US for using the WWF name for anything other than the Wildlife Fund? Would they be able to go after anyone who even thinks of using that name for anything else in the world other than them in the media? It wouldn't be too far fetched in this day in age, where you can have lawsuits against fast food chains for making people fat.

The WWF is making every other wildlife organization out there have a bad name. Their sort of like the PETA of the wildlife world (which makes only half sense since theiy kind of have the same listed intentions). Maybe if the WWF actually CARED about helping the wildlife more then how much they got from something so stupid as this (they are the only ones who really give a shit about it), they would be twice as successful. I wonder how many members of the WWF actually cancelled their membership because they continue to probe it on and on and on, without any signs of stopping, changing their minds, or budging in the very least. It seems that nothing that the WWE is doing to solve this makes the WWF happy.

It has nothing to do with us being ignorant to the accusations being brought upon by this lawsuit. We can all READ, so we all know exactly what it means. That's not the issue here. We're sure as hell aren't STUPID. It's the timing, the delay to file it, and just the fact that they keep this going this long. It won't help them any to continue to harm the WWE (Linda, one of the more trustworthy McMahons, I believe, said that they never had any intentions of harming the WWF in any way, but the WWF is doing everything in their power to harm them, no matter what they try to do to please them).

I wonder how much that certain guy's rep went down for calling all of us marks because we didn't agree with him.
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When we look at the amount of lawsuits that can be levied by anyone ON anyone for just about anything these days, I'm not surprised that this happened.

However, it's equally ignorant to call other people "marks" because they don't agree with you 100%.

First, let me just say that no one is in any way saying that we should revolt by shitting on the situation with enviroment. Some groups actually do sincerly care about the wildlife, and more power to them for actually caring. Kudos to them.

With that being said, and being said that I've been hearing all about this situation since 2000, the World Wildlife Fund is turning out to NOT be one of those people who really care about the wildlife, but about the almighty dollar. The WWE has done whatever they could, I would agree, to end this situation with the WWF. But the WWF still pursist in getting their money.

Now I'm not going to say that Vince shouldn't pay up if there were damages financially, but can we look at this realistically for a minute, please?

For one, this could've been made in the first lawsuit, not two years AFTER that lawsuit was won. It could've been included in it.

Secondly, the timing of this, I agree, is severly subject to controversy, no matter HOW you try to slice it. Bottom line is that they pick NOW to do this instead of earlier, when they were perfectally able to get their money when the WWE changed their name, and if Vince didn't pay, they should've filed this two MONTHS after it happened, not after two and a half years.

Third, if they can get away with actually filing this lawsuit NOW and still be able to get their full asking sum (which I doubt they will get because they waited this long to do anything about it at ALL), imagine how else they could get money. Would they be able to sue US for using the WWF name for anything other than the Wildlife Fund? Would they be able to go after anyone who even thinks of using that name for anything else in the world other than them in the media? It wouldn't be too far fetched in this day in age, where you can have lawsuits against fast food chains for making people fat.

The WWF is making every other wildlife organization out there have a bad name. Their sort of like the PETA of the wildlife world (which makes only half sense since theiy kind of have the same listed intentions). Maybe if the WWF actually CARED about helping the wildlife more then how much they got from something so stupid as this (they are the only ones who really give a shit about it), they would be twice as successful. I wonder how many members of the WWF actually cancelled their membership because they continue to probe it on and on and on, without any signs of stopping, changing their minds, or budging in the very least. It seems that nothing that the WWE is doing to solve this makes the WWF happy.

It has nothing to do with us being ignorant to the accusations being brought upon by this lawsuit. We can all READ, so we all know exactly what it means. That's not the issue here. We're sure as hell aren't STUPID. It's the timing, the delay to file it, and just the fact that they keep this going this long. It won't help them any to continue to harm the WWE (Linda, one of the more trustworthy McMahons, I believe, said that they never had any intentions of harming the WWF in any way, but the WWF is doing everything in their power to harm them, no matter what they try to do to please them).

I wonder how much that certain guy's rep went down for calling all of us marks because we didn't agree with him.
Probably not much, because The CyNick is a respected poster here with great ideas and a high intelligence in his posts. The reason he called everyone who said "F*ck the pandas! F*ck the World Wildlife Fund!", etc. marks, is because some people are failing to look at this from the Fund's point of view.

Now I don't know if they really care about animals or not, but they are a fund, which implies they need money. Therefore any damage that legally shouldn't be done that is done to the Fund, should be expected to be followed up. If they had no proof of damages, they wouldn't be sueing. I'm not a legal expert, but I htink it would take a while to calculate damages, and an exact and fair sum of money the WWE should pay. Two and a half years is not that long when it compares to other financial cases. Besides, if the WWF had come into court back then and said there may be damages done to their organisation, yet they had no proof, they would have been laughed out of the courtroom.

If the Fund has proof of damages, and has a perfect sum of what the WWE should pay to make up for it, I think it is more than fair that the WWE pays. I don't know if the fund is going to go fairly square with the WWE here (there is no evidence they are trying to harm the WWE, they are just helping themselves), or if they will get some sort of bonus compensation, but whatever happens, let's just hope the court ruling is fair and final.
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Probably not much, because The CyNick is a respected poster here with great ideas and a high intelligence in his posts. The reason he called everyone who said "F*ck the pandas! F*ck the World Wildlife Fund!", etc. marks, is because some people are failing to look at this from the Fund's point of view.

Now I don't know if they really care about animals or not, but they are a fund, which implies they need money. Therefore any damage that legally shouldn't be done that is done to the Fund, should be expected to be followed up. If they had no proof of damages, they wouldn't be sueing. I'm not a legal expert, but I htink it would take a while to calculate damages, and an exact and fair sum of money the WWE should pay. Two and a half years is not that long when it compares to other financial cases. Besides, if the WWF had come into court back then and said there may be damages done to their organisation, yet they had no proof, they would have been laughed out of the courtroom.

If the Fund has proof of damages, and has a perfect sum of what the WWE should pay to make up for it, I think it is more than fair that the WWE pays. I don't know if the fund is going to go fairly square with the WWE here (there is no evidence they are trying to harm the WWE, they are just helping themselves), or if they will get some sort of bonus compensation, but whatever happens, let's just hope the court ruling is fair and final.
You do have a point that it may take a long time for all the exact numbers and stats to be figured out, and that the WWE should (and probably had every intentions to) pay on it. But that is still something that the WWF should've done before the very first lawsuit was filed, not now. Even at that point, they could've gotten a pretty good estimated figure of damages they claimed came from the WWE (and there is also a small possibility of whether or not the damages were intentional or not being a factor, don't ask me how, though I doubt it, but I will never be able to fully understand some judges anymore). And coupled with the fact that there have been lawsuits before this and after the first one, there are many suspicions that cloud this issue.

I do thank you, though, for making this a debate rather than just saying that someone sucked for disagreeing. I still can't see why this could've been done sooner. It does no good to wait this long for the WWF.
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You do have a point that it may take a long time for all the exact numbers and stats to be figured out, and that the WWE should (and probably had every intentions to) pay on it. But that is still something that the WWF should've done before the very first lawsuit was filed, not now. Even at that point, they could've gotten a pretty good estimated figure of damages they claimed came from the WWE (and there is also a small possibility of whether or not the damages were intentional or not being a factor, don't ask me how, though I doubt it, but I will never be able to fully understand some judges anymore). And coupled with the fact that there have been lawsuits before this and after the first one, there are many suspicions that cloud this issue.

I do thank you, though, for making this a debate rather than just saying that someone sucked for disagreeing. I still can't see why this could've been done sooner. It does no good to wait this long for the WWF.
You bring up a good point as well, and it really wouldn't surprise me if someone in the WWF said "Hey, we need a truck full of cash, fast!", and then someone said "Hey, let's sue the WWE again for damages down to our organisation!". Timing may be something that couldn't have been helped here by the Fund, or it could just be the time the Fund decides they want a bit of extra cash (that they are intitled to).

I guess the legal facts will come up in court, so I guess we can just hope that the World Wildlife Fund is more than fair in their asking price, and that the ruling is more than fair itself.
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if I understand the lawsuit correctly, it is because of Vince's "Breech Of Contract" if I am wrong, please correct me.

I do not have any DVD's so therefore I do not know if Vince is showing the WWF Logo on there or not. However, from what I see on TV and in the stores Vince is not breeching any damn thing. No one has ever heard of the World Wildlife Fund until this stupid ass lawsuit began in 1994.

I went to the World Wildlife Fund's website, and it said they were founded in 1963, which is the same year the World Wide Wrestling Federation was founded. My question is this. Tell me why it took them Son's Of Bitch's 31 fuckin years to sue the World Wrestling Federation? I'll tell you why, it's because, some jackass who works for those queers doesnt like wrestling, therefore he/she doesn't think anyone else should either, and thus said. "Hey let's sue the World Wrestling Federation and try to gain some instant popularity after 31 years of noone knowing who the hell we are" In My Opinion, this whole damned lawsuit is Bull Shit and has been for the last 10 years when it started.
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