So How Many Times has the WWE missed the "Boat"

**Loose Cannon** · 11-27-2004, 07:26 PM

So I popped one of my old Raw tapes in today while doing a report and it was the time of The Alliance, right after Austin joined them. I'm watching the segment where it was Austin appreciation night and everyone in the ring had their Austin T-shirts and everything right.

Then there's Taz. No Austin T-shirt on, didn't really seem like he cared about appreciating anyone. Austin goes right up to him and starts riding him and riding him and riding him and you just know the audience wanted Taz to snap and just hit a Tazz Plex. But no. A couple of weeks later or maybe it was later in the night, Taz helps Austin beat up on.... I think it was Angle.

Anyway, watching this made me go through all times they just totally missed the boat on guys and didn't push them at the right moment, especially in the last 5 years.

So, if you guys can think of times when guys in the WWE were really hot and the crowd was totally behind them, but the WWE did nothing with them, list them here and talk about it a little. I could list off about 10 times in the last 7 years, but I don't feel like writing a column

So Discuss

**Mister Sinister** · 11-27-2004, 07:45 PM

I remember that moment, which was one of my favorite markout moments, when Hurricane (Then Gregory Helms) gives austin a green lantern T-Shirt...and it also makes me realize, I miss Kanyon...and yes they dropped the ball with Taz, they also did it with the Hurricane after he scored a upset win over The rock

**Evil Vito** · 11-27-2004, 07:47 PM

Oddly, a similar thing involving Taz happened a week before the Appreciation thing.

Tazz was reprimanded by Austin and the crowd wanted Tazz to kick Austin's ass, but instead Tazz was beaten down by 7 or so Alliance members.

Then he's mega over on Smackdown. And what do they have him do? Yep, they have him turn on Angle.

And then he gets dissed by Austin at the Appreciation thing, but the announcers make no other mention of it after that.

If he had been pushed properly, Tazz may still be an active wrestler for all I know.

**DaveWadding** · 11-27-2004, 08:07 PM

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If he had been pushed properly, Tazz may still be an active wrestler for all I know.

Well, then you must not know much

**Loose Cannon** · 11-27-2004, 07:53 PM

^^Which brings me to RVD. I think that same week when the wrestlers beat up Taz, was the same week RVD was late for Austin's interview or whatever. Austin starts talking shit to RVD and goes "I don't like you." Then RVD fires right back and says, "I don't like you eathier." The Crowd popped for that big time and they were already behind RVD, so the logical thing to do was have RVD spin kick Austin. But no, RVD just became Austin's bitch in a matter of seconds by attacking Taz.

**Evil Vito** · 11-27-2004, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

^^Which brings me to RVD. I think that same week when the wrestlers beat up Taz, was the same week RVD was late for Austin's interview or whatever. Austin starts talking shit to RVD and goes "I don't like you." Then RVD fires right back and says, "I don't like you eathier." The Crowd popped for that big time and they were already behind RVD, so the logical thing to do was have RVD spin kick Austin. But no, RVD just became Austin's bitch in a matter of seconds by attacking Taz.

Actually I think that's a whole different week (yes, Taz looked like Austin's bitch on AT LEAST 5 occassions that I can think of during the Alliance angle). Pretty sad and stupid on the WWF's part.

**Mister Sinister** · 11-27-2004, 08:01 PM

and of course, they really blew it with RVD...espically when Austin was angered about what Angle did to him and said he would beat up the first person to come into the room, which everyone knew would be RVD. and basically the whole match, was Austin making Van Dam his bitch...before Van Dam got the win...they so blew it, I really wish they would of made him win the WWF Title in the 3 Way Dance...

and don't get me started on....Chris Jericho's Undisputed Title Reign

**Loose Cannon** · 11-27-2004, 08:02 PM

As long as I going here. Let's talk about Chris Jericho. God, there's been like 6 times they missed the boat on him. First when he comes in and should have got the best of The Rock. They should of had Jericho go back and forth with the Rock on the mic to where Jericho is not getting owned by him, which he did.

Then Jericho beats HHH for the belt and the crowd is going nuts, I know all of you went nuts and what's the WWF do? They take that belt right back and cut Jericho off.

Then they finally give Jericho that well deserbed push. I give them credit for making him the first Undisputed Champion. But what happens? Instead of Jericho looking like a top guy, they demote him to playing 2nd fiddle to the whole HHH/Stephenie fiasco. And once again, HHH gets the best of Y2J.

Even after the WWE has just about cut hi legs out from under him and killed him, the guy still gets pops larger then most and still is over with the crowd.

**Gouda** · 11-27-2004, 08:05 PM

Ultimo Dragon.

A legendary superstar. They hype him as so. Then he arrives and they do NOTHING with him.

And now they want to bring him back without his mask.

**Loose Cannon** · 11-27-2004, 08:07 PM

Yeah, you bet I'm fired up now.

KURT ANGLE: What the fuck is wrong with them here. Again HHH played a part in this one. Oh and Stephenie did too. Kurt and HHH are both going as heels. They don't get along, but they work together. Angle then seems like he develops a thing for Stephenie. I remember that WWF show when Stephenie took a bump during a match and Kurt leaves the match and carries her to the back. I remember saying to myself that this angle was going to be huge. They have to let Steph go with Kurt. I couldn't wait for that to happen and then they would to a big blowoff match between Kurt and HHH at Mania or something. Now this was at a time when they were drawing like 7's in the ratings and you know the crowd wanted nothing more then to see Steph go with Kurt.

And what happens? You guessed it. They drop the god dam angle like nothing ever happend. Reee fucking diculous

**Pepsi Man** · 11-28-2004, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Yeah, you bet I'm fired up now.

KURT ANGLE: What the fuck is wrong with them here. Again HHH played a part in this one. Oh and Stephenie did too. Kurt and HHH are both going as heels. They don't get along, but they work together. Angle then seems like he develops a thing for Stephenie. I remember that WWF show when Stephenie took a bump during a match and Kurt leaves the match and carries her to the back. I remember saying to myself that this angle was going to be huge. They have to let Steph go with Kurt. I couldn't wait for that to happen and then they would to a big blowoff match between Kurt and HHH at Mania or something. Now this was at a time when they were drawing like 7's in the ratings and you know the crowd wanted nothing more then to see Steph go with Kurt.

And what happens? You guessed it. They drop the god dam angle like nothing ever happend. Reee fucking diculous

Actually, this ended up turning Triple H face briefly in 2000, and Triple H and Kurt Angle did indeed do battle at the September Pay-Per-View in 2000, Unforgiven. Also, in storylines, Triple H and Kurt Angle have really never gotten along since, to the point where Angle gave Triple H right back to Raw as soon as he became GM of SmackDown!

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I forget what year i'm thinking 2 years ago at Royal Rumble when Maven came in after Taker had oliminated a shit load of people and dropkicked him over the ropes. Thats was HUGE. They could have built Maven up big time off that if they played there cards right. I think taker ended up barrying him.

Actually, nothing could be further from the truth than that. It was in 2002, and following the Rumble match, Undertaker wanted revenge, so he put his Hardcore Title on the line against Maven, only for Maven to win the match albeit with help from The Rock. So Maven actually owns a one-on-one victory over The Undertaker.

**John la Rock** · 11-27-2004, 08:08 PM

ANd also they recently fucked up Randy Orton. He should still be the Champ today and the Leader of Evolution. Orton should have become "the present" of evolution as HHH should have got the boot. I still can't get over how badly they fucked that up

**Loose Cannon** · 11-27-2004, 08:11 PM

Nah, they really haven't done anything to Orton yet. He's being pushed like the next big thing. You can say they turned him and gave him the belt way to quickly though.

**Gouda** · 11-27-2004, 08:39 PM

If you want recent.... the whole Ric Flair/Randy Orton thing post match of Taboo Tuesday.

A Ric face turn would have been huge after that.

**Mr. Nerfect** · 11-27-2004, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouda

If you want recent.... the whole Ric Flair/Randy Orton thing post match of Taboo Tuesday.

A Ric face turn would have been huge after that.

Nah, Flair face has been done in and out in the WWE. A heel dominant Orton would have been better, IMO.

**DaveWadding** · 11-27-2004, 08:41 PM

Yo, LC, how about Mr. Perfect?

**PorkSoda** · 11-27-2004, 08:52 PM

They were also going to do a Hurricane heel turn it seems but they dropped that as well. A couple months or so back The Hurricane lost a match and he was frusterated, and he would give out his mask to kids in the audience, and after he lost he went out and snatched the mask from the kid and stormed away really upset.

Next week (Or the next time he was on Raw) they acted like nothing ever happened.

**Loose Cannon** · 11-27-2004, 08:56 PM

Oh man, yeah. With Perfect, they could of set up a HUGE feud between him and Hulk. They really could of made Perfect the main guy right there because if you think about it, there wasn't a lot of good heels during that time in the late 80's-early 90's. But this was at a time of the "Big Guys" and a guy like Earthquake, whom was decent, was put in that spot. Also, it's too bad they didn't have Perfect beat Flair for the belt instead of Bret. Cause those two were eathier in a big feud at the time or were just about to feud.

**Loose Cannon** · 11-27-2004, 08:57 PM

they didn't miss the boat on Hurricane though cause nobody cared or cares about him

**Gouda** · 11-27-2004, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

they didn't miss the boat on Hurricane though cause nobody cared or cares about him

I do.

Speaking of Mr. Perfect.... when he returned in the Rumble I think they missed the boat too. He was one of the last ones in there and everybody loved it..... well... at least I did. They could have done more with him after that.

**Mister Sinister** · 11-27-2004, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

they didn't miss the boat on Hurricane though cause nobody cared or cares about him

I will ignorge that comment right there....Alot of people care about "Sugar" Shane Helms/Hurricane...don't rub your beliefs off on us buddy...yes his gimmick is getting stale, but people do care about him...

**Loose Cannon** · 11-27-2004, 09:04 PM

And I'm not sure who was doing drugs when they had Luger beat Yoko via countout at Summerslam 93. I mean you have Luger turn face, get off the helicopter at the USS Intreped, and do what nobody else could do that day and slam Yoko. That was such a markout moment. Then you build Lex up for like 4 months and have him be the wrestling fans hero. You have everyone believe he's going to take down the unstoppable Yokozuna and have everyone believe Luger would win the Championship. It was such a good story in a time when they needed something like that. Then they just didn't go through with it. Kind of would liked to have sat in on that booking meeting.

**Mr. Nerfect** · 11-27-2004, 09:22 PM

I think the WWE has dropped the ball with Mordecai the most. Having him BRAWL with Hardcore Holly was just stupid. I could've seen that guy winning the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 21 if it wasn't for that.

**DaveWadding** · 11-27-2004, 09:25 PM

and not putting the belt on DiBiase 35748505837385068743624749 times.

**Mr. Nerfect** · 11-27-2004, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveWadding

and not putting the belt on DiBiase 35748505837385068743624749 times.

**SuperSlim** · 11-27-2004, 09:52 PM

there is no possible way to even begin to name off the misses that the WWE had.

It's like figurin out pi. not possible.

**John la Rock** · 11-27-2004, 10:10 PM

Hurricane needs a gimmick change.........BADLY

**MVP** · 11-28-2004, 01:43 AM

How about in 95 when British Bulldog was on a major role. At the October In Your House PPV Bulldog could've walked out WWE Champion, but only beats Diesel by DQ when Bret Hart attacks him. If Bulldog would have won the title that night he could've had a great long term title feud with Bret, but he is forced to stay under the glass ceiling that Diesel and Mabel had on top of his chance at main event success.

**MVP** · 11-28-2004, 01:52 AM

Oh hey, how about 2 weeks ago on RAW with having Edge and Xtian brawl instead of reuniting.

**Gouda** · 11-28-2004, 01:57 AM

Nah that was okay. Don't want them reuniting.

Where they dropped the ball was not having Xtian get sweet revenge on Edge.

**Mr. Nerfect** · 11-28-2004, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouda

Nah that was okay. Don't want them reuniting.

Where they dropped the ball was not having Xtian get sweet revenge on Edge.

It will come. I have a feeling Edge will go soaring over the top-rope in that Battle Royal on RAW at least partly because of Christian.

RP · 11-28-2004, 04:16 AM

I forget what year i'm thinking 2 years ago at Royal Rumble when Maven came in after Taker had oliminated a shit load of people and dropkicked him over the ropes. Thats was HUGE. They could have built Maven up big time off that if they played there cards right. I think taker ended up barrying him.

**The One** · 11-28-2004, 04:28 AM

I have just three words for you all...

Rob---Van---Dam!

Anyone remember when The Rock and RVD fought on Raw for the WCW Championship? Despite the fact that RVD was an Alliance Member, despite the fact that at the time Rock was the leader of the WWF, Robbie V still got a bigger pop then The Rock. Not to mention about 10,000 other times when RVD has been the biggest pop of the night, so instead of pushing him, or letting him do his too cool for school personality from ECW, they put him in barial matches, and let him work odd tag teams with Kane, Jeff Hardy, and Rey Mysterio....good one fellas... :/

**Mr. JL** · 11-28-2004, 05:16 PM

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I have just three words for you all...

Rob---Van---Dam!

Out of anybody in the past 5 years... they fucked up with RVD the most.

LK · 11-28-2004, 09:17 AM

I'm wuite suprised that no one has mentioned Raven yet. Ace introduction and then nothing. We all know what Raven can do and if the WWE had let him do that then I firmly believe that he would be one of the biggest stars in the business.

**Savio** · 11-28-2004, 11:15 AM

I don't think jericho should have won the undisputed title because I saw him as a high midcarder and not a main eventer.

**Loose Cannon** · 11-28-2004, 11:27 AM

Yeah, but who won the match between HHH and Angle and who did Steph go with? Point taken, case closed. ANGLE never went over

**Pepsi Man** · 11-28-2004, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Yeah, but who won the match between HHH and Angle and who did Steph go with? Point taken, case closed. ANGLE never went over

Actually, Steph did indeed end up managing Kurt Angle, and Kurt defeated Triple H at the 2001 Royal Rumble to retain the WWF Championship.

**Loose Cannon** · 11-28-2004, 11:57 AM

yea, but 2001 was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy after that angle. Didn't matter after that. People will tell you how many female audience viewers they lost after that angle. Angle beat HHH in 2001. So what? They MISSED THE BOAT when Angle could of went over HHH and Steph could of gone with Angle. I don't even remember Steph being Angle's manager so it shows you how much effect that had on me. Where was HHH in this? Just another case of HHH going over a guy when it means the most and then jobbing when it means shit.

**Pepsi Man** · 11-28-2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

yea, but 2001 was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy after that angle. Didn't matter after that. People will tell you how many female audience viewers they lost after that angle. Angle beat HHH in 2001. So what? They MISSED THE BOAT when Angle could of went over HHH and Steph could of gone with Angle. I don't even remember Steph being Angle's manager so it shows you how much effect that had on me. Where was HHH in this? Just another case of HHH going over a guy when it means the most and then jobbing when it means shit.

It was January of 2001 meanwhile you're talking about them having a "big blowoff match" at the next Mania, which would've been MARCH of 2001.

Triple H was still an active wrestler as Steph managed WWF Champion Kurt Angle.

11-27-2004, 07:26 PM	#1
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	So How Many Times has the WWE missed the "Boat" So I popped one of my old Raw tapes in today while doing a report and it was the time of The Alliance, right after Austin joined them. I'm watching the segment where it was Austin appreciation night and everyone in the ring had their Austin T-shirts and everything right. Then there's Taz. No Austin T-shirt on, didn't really seem like he cared about appreciating anyone. Austin goes right up to him and starts riding him and riding him and riding him and you just know the audience wanted Taz to snap and just hit a Tazz Plex. But no. A couple of weeks later or maybe it was later in the night, Taz helps Austin beat up on.... I think it was Angle. Anyway, watching this made me go through all times they just totally missed the boat on guys and didn't push them at the right moment, especially in the last 5 years. So, if you guys can think of times when guys in the WWE were really hot and the crowd was totally behind them, but the WWE did nothing with them, list them here and talk about it a little. I could list off about 10 times in the last 7 years, but I don't feel like writing a column So Discuss

11-27-2004, 08:11 PM	#13
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	Nah, they really haven't done anything to Orton yet. He's being pushed like the next big thing. You can say they turned him and gave him the belt way to quickly though. Last edited by Loose Cannon; 11-27-2004 at 08:28 PM.

11-27-2004, 07:45 PM	#2
Mister Sinister Less Talk, More Rokk! Posts: 3,555	I remember that moment, which was one of my favorite markout moments, when Hurricane (Then Gregory Helms) gives austin a green lantern T-Shirt...and it also makes me realize, I miss Kanyon...and yes they dropped the ball with Taz, they also did it with the Hurricane after he scored a upset win over The rock

11-27-2004, 07:47 PM	#3
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,316	Oddly, a similar thing involving Taz happened a week before the Appreciation thing. Tazz was reprimanded by Austin and the crowd wanted Tazz to kick Austin's ass, but instead Tazz was beaten down by 7 or so Alliance members. Then he's mega over on Smackdown. And what do they have him do? Yep, they have him turn on Angle. And then he gets dissed by Austin at the Appreciation thing, but the announcers make no other mention of it after that. If he had been pushed properly, Tazz may still be an active wrestler for all I know.

11-27-2004, 07:53 PM	#5
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	^^Which brings me to RVD. I think that same week when the wrestlers beat up Taz, was the same week RVD was late for Austin's interview or whatever. Austin starts talking shit to RVD and goes "I don't like you." Then RVD fires right back and says, "I don't like you eathier." The Crowd popped for that big time and they were already behind RVD, so the logical thing to do was have RVD spin kick Austin. But no, RVD just became Austin's bitch in a matter of seconds by attacking Taz.

11-27-2004, 08:01 PM	#7
Mister Sinister Less Talk, More Rokk! Posts: 3,555	and of course, they really blew it with RVD...espically when Austin was angered about what Angle did to him and said he would beat up the first person to come into the room, which everyone knew would be RVD. and basically the whole match, was Austin making Van Dam his bitch...before Van Dam got the win...they so blew it, I really wish they would of made him win the WWF Title in the 3 Way Dance... and don't get me started on....Chris Jericho's Undisputed Title Reign

11-27-2004, 08:02 PM	#8
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	As long as I going here. Let's talk about Chris Jericho. God, there's been like 6 times they missed the boat on him. First when he comes in and should have got the best of The Rock. They should of had Jericho go back and forth with the Rock on the mic to where Jericho is not getting owned by him, which he did. Then Jericho beats HHH for the belt and the crowd is going nuts, I know all of you went nuts and what's the WWF do? They take that belt right back and cut Jericho off. Then they finally give Jericho that well deserbed push. I give them credit for making him the first Undisputed Champion. But what happens? Instead of Jericho looking like a top guy, they demote him to playing 2nd fiddle to the whole HHH/Stephenie fiasco. And once again, HHH gets the best of Y2J. Even after the WWE has just about cut hi legs out from under him and killed him, the guy still gets pops larger then most and still is over with the crowd.

11-27-2004, 08:05 PM	#9
Gouda It's Hammer Time Posts: 2,207	Ultimo Dragon. A legendary superstar. They hype him as so. Then he arrives and they do NOTHING with him. And now they want to bring him back without his mask.

11-27-2004, 08:07 PM	#10
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	Yeah, you bet I'm fired up now. KURT ANGLE: What the fuck is wrong with them here. Again HHH played a part in this one. Oh and Stephenie did too. Kurt and HHH are both going as heels. They don't get along, but they work together. Angle then seems like he develops a thing for Stephenie. I remember that WWF show when Stephenie took a bump during a match and Kurt leaves the match and carries her to the back. I remember saying to myself that this angle was going to be huge. They have to let Steph go with Kurt. I couldn't wait for that to happen and then they would to a big blowoff match between Kurt and HHH at Mania or something. Now this was at a time when they were drawing like 7's in the ratings and you know the crowd wanted nothing more then to see Steph go with Kurt. And what happens? You guessed it. They drop the god dam angle like nothing ever happend. Reee fucking diculous

11-27-2004, 08:08 PM	#12
John la Rock That's how I roll!!! Posts: 4,437	ANd also they recently fucked up Randy Orton. He should still be the Champ today and the Leader of Evolution. Orton should have become "the present" of evolution as HHH should have got the boot. I still can't get over how badly they fucked that up

11-27-2004, 08:39 PM	#14
Gouda It's Hammer Time Posts: 2,207	If you want recent.... the whole Ric Flair/Randy Orton thing post match of Taboo Tuesday. A Ric face turn would have been huge after that.

11-27-2004, 08:41 PM	#16
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	Yo, LC, how about Mr. Perfect?

11-27-2004, 08:52 PM	#17
PorkSoda Diabetes Coming To Getcha Posts: 6,826	They were also going to do a Hurricane heel turn it seems but they dropped that as well. A couple months or so back The Hurricane lost a match and he was frusterated, and he would give out his mask to kids in the audience, and after he lost he went out and snatched the mask from the kid and stormed away really upset. Next week (Or the next time he was on Raw) they acted like nothing ever happened.

11-27-2004, 08:56 PM	#18
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	Oh man, yeah. With Perfect, they could of set up a HUGE feud between him and Hulk. They really could of made Perfect the main guy right there because if you think about it, there wasn't a lot of good heels during that time in the late 80's-early 90's. But this was at a time of the "Big Guys" and a guy like Earthquake, whom was decent, was put in that spot. Also, it's too bad they didn't have Perfect beat Flair for the belt instead of Bret. Cause those two were eathier in a big feud at the time or were just about to feud.

11-27-2004, 08:57 PM	#19
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	they didn't miss the boat on Hurricane though cause nobody cared or cares about him

11-27-2004, 09:04 PM	#22
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	And I'm not sure who was doing drugs when they had Luger beat Yoko via countout at Summerslam 93. I mean you have Luger turn face, get off the helicopter at the USS Intreped, and do what nobody else could do that day and slam Yoko. That was such a markout moment. Then you build Lex up for like 4 months and have him be the wrestling fans hero. You have everyone believe he's going to take down the unstoppable Yokozuna and have everyone believe Luger would win the Championship. It was such a good story in a time when they needed something like that. Then they just didn't go through with it. Kind of would liked to have sat in on that booking meeting.

11-27-2004, 09:22 PM	#23
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 61,517	I think the WWE has dropped the ball with Mordecai the most. Having him BRAWL with Hardcore Holly was just stupid. I could've seen that guy winning the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 21 if it wasn't for that.

11-27-2004, 09:25 PM	#24
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	and not putting the belt on DiBiase 35748505837385068743624749 times.

11-27-2004, 09:52 PM	#26
SuperSlim Oh Sht* Posts: 19,302	there is no possible way to even begin to name off the misses that the WWE had. It's like figurin out pi. not possible.

11-27-2004, 10:10 PM	#27
John la Rock That's how I roll!!! Posts: 4,437	Hurricane needs a gimmick change.........BADLY

11-28-2004, 01:43 AM	#28
MVP Mas Vagina Porfavor Posts: 11,343	How about in 95 when British Bulldog was on a major role. At the October In Your House PPV Bulldog could've walked out WWE Champion, but only beats Diesel by DQ when Bret Hart attacks him. If Bulldog would have won the title that night he could've had a great long term title feud with Bret, but he is forced to stay under the glass ceiling that Diesel and Mabel had on top of his chance at main event success.

11-28-2004, 01:52 AM	#29
MVP Mas Vagina Porfavor Posts: 11,343	Oh hey, how about 2 weeks ago on RAW with having Edge and Xtian brawl instead of reuniting.

11-28-2004, 01:57 AM	#30
Gouda It's Hammer Time Posts: 2,207	Nah that was okay. Don't want them reuniting. Where they dropped the ball was not having Xtian get sweet revenge on Edge.

11-28-2004, 04:16 AM	#32
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	I forget what year i'm thinking 2 years ago at Royal Rumble when Maven came in after Taker had oliminated a shit load of people and dropkicked him over the ropes. Thats was HUGE. They could have built Maven up big time off that if they played there cards right. I think taker ended up barrying him.

11-28-2004, 04:28 AM	#33
The One Boss Posts: 17,611	I have just three words for you all... Rob---Van---Dam! Anyone remember when The Rock and RVD fought on Raw for the WCW Championship? Despite the fact that RVD was an Alliance Member, despite the fact that at the time Rock was the leader of the WWF, Robbie V still got a bigger pop then The Rock. Not to mention about 10,000 other times when RVD has been the biggest pop of the night, so instead of pushing him, or letting him do his too cool for school personality from ECW, they put him in barial matches, and let him work odd tag teams with Kane, Jeff Hardy, and Rey Mysterio....good one fellas... :/

11-28-2004, 09:17 AM	#35
LK It's Clobbering Time! Posts: 5,337	I'm wuite suprised that no one has mentioned Raven yet. Ace introduction and then nothing. We all know what Raven can do and if the WWE had let him do that then I firmly believe that he would be one of the biggest stars in the business.

11-28-2004, 11:15 AM	#36
Savio Spammy Certified Posts: 46,111	I don't think jericho should have won the undisputed title because I saw him as a high midcarder and not a main eventer.

11-28-2004, 11:27 AM	#37
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	Yeah, but who won the match between HHH and Angle and who did Steph go with? Point taken, case closed. ANGLE never went over

11-28-2004, 11:57 AM	#39
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	yea, but 2001 was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy after that angle. Didn't matter after that. People will tell you how many female audience viewers they lost after that angle. Angle beat HHH in 2001. So what? They MISSED THE BOAT when Angle could of went over HHH and Steph could of gone with Angle. I don't even remember Steph being Angle's manager so it shows you how much effect that had on me. Where was HHH in this? Just another case of HHH going over a guy when it means the most and then jobbing when it means shit.