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Old 03-12-2005, 11:33 PM   #1
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You know...

I really like S2H. Well, not the S2H gimmick, with the Worm and all that shit, but Scotty's got a lotof energy, and knows how to work the crowd. His wrestling skills aren't super, but they're solid.

Only problem is, I hate the fucking gimmick. Like, really hate it.

Now, I'm not saying he could be a main eventer. He's no Rock, he's not even close. More that he could be better off than he is.


“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”

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Old 03-12-2005, 11:43 PM   #2
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He's has the same gimmick for 6 years. Time for a change
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:45 PM   #3
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who else has had the same gimmick for 6 years, in today's time. besides HBK
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:51 PM   #4
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who else has had the same gimmick for 6 years, in today's time. besides HBK
Bobcore.

Unless you count no longer calling the Coach fat as a gimmick change.
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:51 PM   #5
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However, The S2H gimmick blew even 6 years ago.
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:53 PM   #6
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HHH had that world champion gimmick all those years ago. got old after a while.
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HHH had that world champion gimmick all those years ago. got old after a while.
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:58 PM   #8
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I liked Two Cool when they were heels. It all went down hill when they turned face.
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that happens for a lotta people

Orton, Cena to name a few
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:18 AM   #10
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Some acts shouldn't be turned face.

Cena's the best example. Making him a babyface was a waste of a badass.
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:25 AM   #11
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He's better then orton face

Kane had the same gimmick for 6 years.
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:26 AM   #12
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He's better then orton face

Kane had the same gimmick for 6 years.
No way. Kane had the...Ummm...I can't speak gimmick...Then the...I fucked a coirpse gimmick...Then the...

Uhhh yeah.
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:34 AM   #13
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Stevie had the same gimmick for 6 years.
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Old 03-13-2005, 11:34 AM   #14
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Stevie had the same gimmick for 6 years.
First he was big on stealing other people's looks and gimmicks, then he had the R2C, followed by his relationship with Victoria, and then GM of Heat....but thanks for mentioning him. I like it when people talk about Stevie.
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Old 03-13-2005, 01:33 AM   #15
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I still think it would be a cool angle if guys like Scott Taylor (S2H), Shane Helms, and Sean Morley shed their gimmicks and turned heel. Kind of an anti-establishment angle where they blame their career misfortunes on the stupid characters they've been forced to play.

I know I posted this before, but I still think it's cool.
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Old 03-13-2005, 10:43 AM   #16
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I still think it would be a cool angle if guys like Scott Taylor (S2H), Shane Helms, and Sean Morley shed their gimmicks and turned heel. Kind of an anti-establishment angle where they blame their career misfortunes on the stupid characters they've been forced to play.

I know I posted this before, but I still think it's cool.
I agree. This would seriously rock.
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Old 03-13-2005, 11:38 AM   #17
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I still think it would be a cool angle if guys like Scott Taylor (S2H), Shane Helms, and Sean Morley shed their gimmicks and turned heel. Kind of an anti-establishment angle where they blame their career misfortunes on the stupid characters they've been forced to play.

I know I posted this before, but I still think it's cool.
Sounds like the J.O.B. Squad
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:04 PM   #18
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Sounds like the J.O.B. Squad
Also sounds like Right To Censor, which was also an attempt to get Godfather, Val Venis, and Stevie Richards out of their old dead-end gimmicks.

If the cruiserweight title doesn't go to Paul London, I say have Scotty 2 Hotty don the Warrior Tassels and Imitation Fur Coat. Then he and London could have a Tag Title run as those two mildly insane, over-caffeinated cruisers who psychologically freak-out the bigger guys.

Either that or have Akio team up with London. I was starting to wonder how cool it would be if the two former rivals got fed up with Chavo half-way through the match last night on Velocity and suddenly hit the announce table to totally wail on Chavo. One can dream... one can dream....
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Old 03-14-2005, 03:17 PM   #19
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I still think it would be a cool angle if guys like Scott Taylor (S2H), Shane Helms, and Sean Morley shed their gimmicks and turned heel. Kind of an anti-establishment angle where they blame their career misfortunes on the stupid characters they've been forced to play.

I know I posted this before, but I still think it's cool.
Dustin runnels did it when he threw his goldust outfit in the trash and started going by his name. It was wildly successful.
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Old 03-13-2005, 10:51 AM   #20
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Cena pulls off being a face well. Orton's career would be better if he was still the arrogant ass hole charater as opposed to pretty boy crusader. Batista 's charater is about to get fucked up too. I don't see him as a face. As for S2H, these changes only come off well for characters who have visibility and seem to get some acknowledgement from the crowd not Velocity mid carders.
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Old 03-13-2005, 10:57 AM   #21
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Cena pulls off being a face well. Orton's career would be better if he was still the arrogant ass hole charater as opposed to pretty boy crusader. Batista 's charater is about to get fucked up too. I don't see him as a face. As for S2H, these changes only come off well for characters who have visibility and seem to get some acknowledgement from the crowd not Velocity mid carders.
1) Cena doesn't pull off the face deal, dumbass.

2) Ummm...DUH? Do you think they'd make that kind of change to a "Velocity Midcarder" without moving him for some exposure?
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Old 03-13-2005, 11:22 AM   #22
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He seemed fine last smack down. But they should not let him say chain gang.
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:24 PM   #23
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He seemed fine last smack down. But they should not let him say chain gang.
Last Smackdown was a significant change in Cena's persona. You cannot compare that to his "babyface" antics. This was more the Anti-Hero Austin type of character, which is WAY different.
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Old 03-13-2005, 11:38 AM   #24
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Old 03-13-2005, 11:54 AM   #25
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Based on the pops Cena receives at the live shows I've been to he pulls it off well. And that's all S2H will ever be is a velocity mid carder. Exposure or even a big push doesn't guarantee success ( ask Lance Storm) so fuck you.
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Kane Knight, I'll save you the time *Dusty Rhodes voice* Brotha'!



Look, just because they get pops doesn't mean their gimmick is worth shit. He just has the charisma to overcome his shitty "poop, cole gay WORD LIFE CHAIN GANG!" rap shit he spews every week. So...








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The gimmick may be shit, but the pops they receive is an indication that the fans like it. And any retard that watches wrestling knows how hard it is to resurrect a wrestler's career after he's spent so many years sucking ass.
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:25 PM   #28
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The gimmick may be shit, but the pops they receive is an indication that the fans like it. And any retard that watches wrestling knows how hard it is to resurrect a wrestler's career after he's spent so many years sucking ass.
I guess you're one of those retards then, eh?

Too bad "any retard" knows wrong.

Cena gets big pops, but then, I could say the same thing for S2H. So there goes another one of your arguments.
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:29 PM   #29
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Speaking of Stevie, he debuted in ROH for a few shows. He superkicked CM Punk last night.
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:37 PM   #30
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It's simple, name me a wrestler who's been with the WWE as long as S2H has and actually went from Velocity mid carder to a respectable star because of a gimmick change. And that's bullshit that Scotty 2 Hottie gets the same pops as Cena. I dunno why I'm arguing over fucking S2H anyway. The dumb son of a bitch will never shine no matter how hard you wish Kane Knight
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Old 03-13-2005, 03:32 PM   #31
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It's simple, name me a wrestler who's been with the WWE as long as S2H has and actually went from Velocity mid carder to a respectable star because of a gimmick change. And that's bullshit that Scotty 2 Hottie gets the same pops as Cena. I dunno why I'm arguing over fucking S2H anyway. The dumb son of a bitch will never shine no matter how hard you wish Kane Knight
Watch your mouth, pal, if you ever, EVER, EEEEEEVEEEEEEEEERRRRR talk to KK that way again, I shall bomb the state you live in until you melt.
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Old 03-13-2005, 03:44 PM   #32
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It's simple, name me a wrestler who's been with the WWE as long as S2H has and actually went from Velocity mid carder to a respectable star because of a gimmick change. And that's bullshit that Scotty 2 Hottie gets the same pops as Cena. I dunno why I'm arguing over fucking S2H anyway. The dumb son of a bitch will never shine no matter how hard you wish Kane Knight
Where to start?

1) I didn't say that S2H got the same pops. I said the same argument could be made for him because he gets pops. All I was doing was shooting down an argument that was fucking stupid.

2) "Name me a wrestler who..." Blah blah blah. Keep in mind Scotty hasn't always been a Velocity midcarder. Argument: Flawed.

3) No Matter How Hard I wish? This thread was simply noting he had talent, and saying it'd be nice if he was doing better than he is. I know you're just being a little drama Queen here and everything, but come on. Don't be stupid. There's a long list of people I'd rather see make it to the top, so if I were "Wishing hard," it'd probably be for someone else. There's a difference between he "could" be better than this stupid gimmick, and "man oh man I wish that he was the next Heavweight champion of the world!" Please, don't be a fucking moron by trying to treat me like a fanboy. It doesn't work when you're busy jerking off over a guy who got pops for "I think I just pooped my pants."

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Old 03-15-2005, 04:26 PM   #33
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It's simple, name me a wrestler who's been with the WWE as long as S2H has and actually went from Velocity mid carder to a respectable star because of a gimmick change. And that's bullshit that Scotty 2 Hottie gets the same pops as Cena. I dunno why I'm arguing over fucking S2H anyway. The dumb son of a bitch will never shine no matter how hard you wish Kane Knight
JBL was a European Champion and a Texas redneck that was quite popular but never taken as a future main eventer, now look a him. All they did was have him start acting intelligent (something you should do judging by your death threast later in the thread) and slap a business suit on him. That's a pretty damn good improvement.

Eddie Guerrero is another example. He started off as a Radical, but soon they became jokes and Perry Saturn, Dean Malenko & Eddie Guerrero were horribly misused. Eddie Guerrero came back about a year later and captured some lightning in a bottle after becoming a WWE Tag Team Champion and went on to win a Royal Rumble and become a WWE Champion. This may be inaccurate, but I think he was the smallest WWE Champion ever.

To say Scotty 2 Hotty will never be a World Champion because he's a "Velocity mid-carder" is stupid and short-sighted. Give the guy the gimmick change he deserves, give him a finishing move, give him a stable and he's pretty much a main eventer, or at least a challenger for the WWE United States Championship.

If the WWE builds up their cruiserweights to the point where they can challenge for the WWE Championship effectively, then there would be few problems with the Cruiserweight Division today. Unfortunately that will never happen due to the lack of attention it has been getting. Hopefully the rumours about a change in this are true so guys like Paul London, Akio, Nunzio and Funaki get the credibility they deserve.
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Old 03-13-2005, 03:58 PM   #34
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I just got this PM from... shit, what was his name again. Noobs nowadays like calling themselves Rh4f5LL01 or such useless names. Aaaanyways, the PM was this:

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Die Slow (that's the title)

Fuck you faggot. What is he (Kane Knight he meant) your boyfriend? I'm not gonna be intimidated by some fucking nerds on a computer. Don't fuck with me.
I almost dropped a tear. Look, noobs on this website don't get much attention, and you're no exception. If you think you're intimidating me by calling me a nerd,


















































BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAA

By the way, I hope you enjoy having little red dots under your avatar, man, cuz that's what's gonna happen to you soon enough.

And one last thing. KK ain't my boy friend.

...

He's already interested in another guy.
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Old 03-13-2005, 04:07 PM   #35
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Yeah, I'm KaneKnight's bitch! (How else did you think I got over?)

Anyway, I find it quite amusing that he tells you not to insult him through the internet. Then he insults you. HA HA HA HA HA HA




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Old 03-13-2005, 07:34 PM   #36
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Anyway, I find it quite amusing that he tells you not to insult him through the internet. Then he insults you. HA HA HA HA HA HA
Yeah. The poor kid can't handle it. Speaking of which, I could use a second. And third. You're my flair, but I need some meat (Batista) and a pretty boi (Orton).

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Old 03-13-2005, 07:42 PM   #37
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Yeah. The poor kid can't handle it. Speaking of which, I could use a second. And third. You're my flair, but I need some meat (Batista) and a pretty boi (Orton).

I thought I was your pretty boi. I'm crushed.

Seriouslly though, Scotty's gimmiack is...meh. It's only good if it's in a tag team. By himself it just doesn't work. And we've seen this time and time again.

And Ray....bro. Back the hell off the crack dude. Try pot. It mellows you out better.
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Old 03-13-2005, 08:01 PM   #38
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I thought I was your pretty boi. I'm crushed.

Seriouslly though, Scotty's gimmiack is...meh. It's only good if it's in a tag team. By himself it just doesn't work. And we've seen this time and time again.

And Ray....bro. Back the hell off the crack dude. Try pot. It mellows you out better.
Scotty's gimmick is pretty bad anyway.

My only thing is that I think A) He's way too old for this gimmick (and it shows), B) he's more talented than he gets credit for. He's not gonna set the Cruiserweight division on fire, he'll never main event, but he could do better than W-O-R-M...WOOT WOOT WOOT!
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Old 03-13-2005, 04:23 PM   #39
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Old 03-13-2005, 04:31 PM   #40
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Scotty is more of a tag wrestler than singles. He could probably work as an arrogant guy who thinks hes better than everyone else if he drops the gimmick he has now. Teaming with Puder wouldent be a bad idea.
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