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Old 05-23-2005, 12:44 PM   #1
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Topher Grace joins Spiderman 3 Cast
Topher Grace (That 70's Show...and ...In Good Company) has been added to the cast for the upcoming Spiderman 3 movie. Marvel hasnt had kept his character secret so far so as far as I know of its unknown to most who he will be playing.

Rumours on the net are going crazy now that he will probably play one of the villains for the next Spiderman movie in which Raimi has said might possibly be his last.

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what villain could Topher Grace possibly play?
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what villain could Topher Grace possibly play?
Venom.
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He's more suited for Jimmy Olson.
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Old 05-23-2005, 02:23 PM   #5
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I really doubt Venom will be in it, Raimi doesn't really like the character. Not really got a lot of choice when it comes to decent villains who aren't just mindless grunts though, now that the Green Goblin and Doc Ock are over and done with.
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How could you not like Venom? That is like the money movie right there...that's like the main enemy everyone knows.
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How could you not like Venom? That is like the money movie right there...that's like the main enemy everyone knows.
I'd dispute that, personally, maybe for the younger generation of Spiderman fans, but the Green Goblin and Doc Ock seem far more well known overall to me.
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lol him playing Venom HAHAHA

that would be awesome
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GG will be in the next film, since he set that up last movie. As for the other villian...perhaps it'll be........Mysterio?
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Fuck's sake Tom Haden Church has already signed and is almost 100% sure to be Sandman, there'd be little or no point throwing Venom in on top of that, either one or the other would just not have enough screentime.

There's already options with The Lizard, Wolfman and Harry going nutso to be GG 2...as for Grace, could be Mysterio, could be Hobgoblin, could be frickin' Shocker ffs. But I really, really doubt it'll be Venom.
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Since I'm a fairly casual Spiderman fan, who the fuck is Sandman?
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Hmmm... Topher sorta looks like Toby McGuire.

*gasp* Could Topher be none other than the infamous spider-clone Ben Reilly?!?!?
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Hmmm... Topher sorta looks like Toby McGuire.

*gasp* Could Topher be none other than the infamous spider-clone Ben Reilly?!?!?
Isn't it a little soon to be having Ben Reilly?
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Green Goblin will be back with Harry under the mask,

I still want them to pull Venom and Carnage out
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Green Goblin will be back with Harry under the mask,

I still want them to pull Venom and Carnage out

Word. Fuck all this Green Goblin/Rhyno/Scorpion shit. Well, Goblin is acceptable because of the story with Harry, but meh. The rest of the villains fail.

Venom and Carnage were staples in my gaming life when the SNES was around. Maximum Carnage! There's a game right there.
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Green Goblin will be back with Harry under the mask,

I still want them to pull Venom and Carnage out
Carnage is one of the worst characters ever. He's just a skinny Venom with no character depth whatsoever. I'm so glad they've killed him off(for now anyway) in the comics.
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I still want them to pull Venom and Carnage out
Carnage and that whole series

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Carnage and that whole series

I need my Demogobolin fix
You see, they will never put either of them in the movies. Yeah they look cool, but beyond that what do you have? Nothing. Just rip-offs of other, much better Villians. Sandman could be good, because his character has a lot more depth than either of those guys. Venom would be good, but you would have to build towards it beyond one movie. I actually wouldn't be suprised to see the beginnings of the Venom story start in 3. As far as dumping a load of shit into parker's life, I think they should introduce another female character, like gwen stacy or the black cat, to throw a wrench in the whole MJ relationship, just as it seems everything is going great.
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To bring in Gwen now would be a mistake. If you were going to bring her in at all( :foc: Sam!!), then you should have brought her in in the first film. Hold off on the Goblin until at least the sequel, then have her die. Then you can bring Mary Jane in(although I prefer Black Cat, Felica Hardy>>>>>>MJ). Although, with these Spider-Man movies(as great as they are, SM2 had so much comic book feel in it) being so kid friendly, it's kind of hard to do that.

Even still, I DON'T want to see the Goblin again. Yeah, you kind of have to now, but I really don't want to see another Goblin. The two films have been very different from each other(Goblin, Ock), so to just re-use the Goblin is lazy as hell. Unless you're going to drastically change the costume to make it look like the Hobgoblin(fun fact: the Hobgoblin was Ned Leeds in the comics).
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The only problem I ever had with Venom was how often he was in the comics. It seemed like every other month, he had a story. To be honest, Spider-Man has much more interesting villains than Venom. Mysterio, Scorpion and Arcade to name a few(that last one's a joke for those who know the comics ). But that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to see Venom.

By introducing John Jameson, there's potential to bring in the Man-Wolf, but I doubt it.

Scorpion would be awesome. That would mean more Jameson, and in turn, more J.K. Simmons, which I'm always up for. Mysterio would be absolutely fucking awesome. You could actually make some scenes creepy, but I doubt Raimi would do this.

By introducing John Jameson, there's potential to bring in the Man-Wolf, but I doubt it.
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Jaded-Dragon, that scenario you created was just awesome.

Venom needs some build-up, but I think one film would be enough. All you need to do is create a strong enough plot with The Sandman, slowly build-up Harry Osbourne as The Green Goblin (for Film V), and maybe have JJ Jameson start to build-up to Scorpion or something for a later film. I have a feeling The Lizard may make an appearance in the film as well.
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Venom needs to be built up, two movies at least, unless they totally destroy his origin, throwing Carnage in as well would just be overkill, first you need to do Black costume Spiderman hen you nee to do Brock becming Venom then you need to do the Venom suit splitting itself and one part merging with Cassidy. Well I suppose they could change the origins if they really wanted to but anyway you look at it, you trying to fit all that in 2 hours will ensure that it would suck. Besides Venom and Carnage are a product of the 90s comics, I like that they are staying with the classic villains, the staples of the franchise.
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Old 05-28-2005, 03:27 AM   #29
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Chances are the next movie will have multiple villains, with Harry as Green Goblin 2, and possibly the Lizard (since they've already introduced Dr. Connors in the second movie). Raimi had mentioned something or other about having the Black Cat in there somewhere too, which might not be too bad.

I'd really rather not see Venom or Carnage at all in the movies, since A) Venom's a really complicated character that needs some good build, and they haven't even introduced Eddie Brock, and B) despite looking awesome on ink-and-paper, something tells me Venom would look really stupid in a live-action movie.
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While he would be a great visual, Sandman is a terrible idea. I like the villain in the books(he had a great story with Hydroman where they combined into this mud monster), but he can't hold a film by himself. If anything, I could imagine Church playing Mysterio or Eddie Brock, and Grace playing Electro or the Scorpion.
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:28 PM   #31
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Odds are it's going to be Sandman, since there's various rumours they've been doing a lot of effects tests involving sand.
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:38 AM   #32
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He'll be Peter Parker's evil twin!!!!


Or maybe I'm just the only person who thinks Topher Grace looks a lot like Tobey McGuire. *shrug*
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:42 AM   #36
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He'll be Peter Parker's evil twin!!!!


Or maybe I'm just the only person who thinks Topher Grace looks a lot like Tobey McGuire. *shrug*
Nah.

Check a few posts up where I speculate Topher is Peter Parker's clone.
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I personally think Scorpion would be an awesome villain to sidetrack us while they handle the Eddie Brock and Harry Osbourne storylines. The Sandman and Scorpion being hired to kill Spider-Man by Harry would be a nice touch, making his transition into the Green Goblin seem harder than just simply going "I'm evil now.", since Peter Parker is his best friend.

I personally hope they kill off Mary-Jane in this movie. Maybe the same way that Gwen Stacey died? Have Harry Osbourne decide to save her from Scorpion and Sandman after he orders them to kidnap her to lure out Parker, due to a change of heart. Have Mary-Jane deliver one of the best slaps in cinema history to him, which makes Harry snap, shoving Mary-Jane off the bridge. Spidey catches her *CRACK*, her neck breaks. Follow this up with The Sandman blasting Spidey and an already dead Mary-Jane out into the water, and having Sandman become a sort of mud creature by mixing with the water, and you have some pretty good final action sequences lined up, IMO.
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:30 AM   #40
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They already dropped MJ off a bridge in the first one, can't see them doing it again.
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